23-okt-2007
Reading some of Part 8 (of the Wave)
{http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave8.htm}
Preface
Start> 10:06 PM [22:06]
Well as some of you might know I have been reading Wave quite some time now, I haven't got much time to read it a lot, because of school, work and a very energy-taking forum. But, I will talk about that in another message.
Yesterday I started to read part 8 of the Wave. From [Before we go on...] 'till [...us of free will].
Summary and some Thoughts about what I have learned.
So it seems that STS people are people of Wishful Thinking. Thoughts like ''THAT won't happen to me!''... Hmm it's interesting, because would people who think they already have all the knowledge, answers (only by thinking?) and think that they are the ones that people must listen to... would this also be Wishful Thinking? I guess so.
The STS mode is a reflection of the collecting of gravity.
The STO mode is a reflection of the dispersion of gravity.
To get to the next ''level'' (4th density) it is needed to learn the lessons of this density.
(Also it doesn't mean that people who are very spiritual and think they can't function in this world have learned all the lessons... quite the opposite, I think). The lessons we have to learn:
''Karmic and simple understandings'' as the Cassiopaeans have said.
Also something that is actually quite logic to me and very important, is:
''Knowledge and awareness makes you aware that you have free will, and also makes you aware of what actions actually ARE acts of free will, and therefore, when you know or suspect the difference between the lies an deception and truth, then you are in a position to be in control of your life.''
So if you know what free will, really is, you can understand it more completely and know when you can really speak of acts of free will.
The passion of knowledge is not passion, but soul questing. I think that made some things clear, because I know someone who feels like not wanting to read (for example the Wave or transcripts) 'cause it would be weird, to only doing so with the reason of that knowledge protects. It would feel STS-ish. I guess if someone wants knowledge, it's just something you need, hmm.. like the C's said ''It is simply that one is at that point on the learning cycle. At that point, no drive is needed.''
Many people that I have met on the internet, forums etc. like the whole ''love-and-light'' thing. It feels so appealing to them, so good. So it must be ''good'' to them. Like I have written in my story (Mountain of Knowledge): ''They give eachother exactly what they expect from eachother''.
I just really couldn't stop, actually, laughing and thinking how, how they could think like that? Think that giving love and light energy (how do you do this anyway?) to someone who looks ''mean'', and that that would be a way to ''defeat'' them, or make them go away? Or putting some kind of stones around your bed, lighting some kind of candle, saying some words, ...could that really shoo some ''negative'' things away? And what are those negative things anyway? Could they be just something they think is real but actually isn't?
Laura wrote:
Now about the way we see reality. In part 8, there is a very good example (actually a real hypnosis session) of how someone's belief system was ''activated'' in a manner that was ''acceptable'' to his ''ego survivual'' instincts, this was clear because of the fact he didn't see the Third Man in the room, after he was told that the Third Man had to go (called away on urgent business). (The third man was still in the room of course, but the one who was being hypnotised didn't see him) {See for the example Part 8}“Then, of course, there is the question of making "leaps" as described above - wanting to "skip over" the 3rd density part and go right back to where all is wonderful and happy and peaceful. One has to realize that this sort of thinking is more deeply STS than it might at first appear because, in the end, what is wanted is to escape the hard work of learning the lessons of this density. What is wanted is "ease and comfort" and no work.”
What is the survival of the ego? ''The survival of the ego is established early in life bij our parental and societal programming as to :
What IS or
What IS NOT
possible.''
In other words: ''What we are seeing is OUR interpretation of a series of waves or fluctuations of the MEDIUM of our reality, which we interpret according to our ''program.''
So I guess, what we have learned when we were young, things like ''These are clouds.'', ''Ghosts and aliens don't exist.'' etc. determine the way we perceive things. And I think, it also determines the way we think, cause in the end, mostly it's one of our I's, that chooses what the person/I's wants to believe or not. I mean, some people choose to believe that are aliens out there, even that they have learned when they were young that Aliens don't exist, and thinking that they do, sounds and is stupid to others.
But that might be another thing.
I'm still kinda struggling on Gurdjieff's quote:
“And, of course, "observing phenomena" means, in its most literal sense, to gain and gather knowledge of every form and sort so that one has a sufficient database from which to draw conclusions about observations of one's environment.But, this is difficult to do because one's beliefs are intimately tied to emotions! Remember: our beliefs are formed in emotional situations of interactions with our parents and other "authorities" of our infancy and childhood! It is very frightening to even contemplate breaking free of this safe, inner "environment.”
~G~ What does he actually mean with ''breaking free of the safe environment''? Just trying to break free of the usual ''beliefs'' that are made in this environment? Or something deeper? Still thinking on this one. Maybe it might get clear when I have read the whole book ''In search of the Miraculous.'' So I put a G in front of this paragraph, so I'll read this part after reading the book, to see if I know then what he really means.
There is some more that I learned, but I'll get to that tomorrow! [It turns out to be 3 days later, guess my other I('s) didn't agree on the 'tomorrow' thingy...]
End> 11:12 PM [23:12]
26-okt-2007
Start> 11:42 AM [11:42]
From the 10-22-94 session I read that human beings have chosen to experience/be in physical matter (to experience physical sensations). This was a group mind decision.
And I made this little ''sketch'' about the long and short wave cycle (click on it for a bigger view):
Cassiopaeans say:
“Positive by-product is an increase in relative energy which speeds up the learning process of the soul and all of it's one-dimensional and two-dimensional interactive partners. In other words, flora and fauna, minerals, etc. All experience growth and movement towards reunion at a faster rate on the cycle through this short wave cycle physical/ethereal transfer. Of a negative nature, it also produces many negative experiences for these very same entities which otherwise would not exist because being of a first level and second level nature, flora and fauna would ordinarily experience a long term or long wave cycle on the physical plane as opposed to a short wave cycle physical and ethereal, as they do now because of their interaction with the human species in its short wave ethereal/physical cycle.”Beings like the Reptilians and Grey (who 'live' in the 4th density) have different ways of nourishment than we have (3rd density).
C's say:
“Extreme fear and anxiety builds up fear/anxiety energy which is of a negative nature which fuels the beings that you speak of in that they draw from that and produce a sort of a fueling energy which keeps them going as one of their forms of nourishment based on their metabolic structure.”Physical methods: The drinking of blood and blood by-products which is done through pores. By bathing and then absorbing the necessary products and then disposing of the remaining product. => The Lizard Beings and the beings we describe as Grays (are examples of beings) who feed themselves through these two methods.
“Part of their reason for existence on the 4th level is their ability to nourish themselves through
ethereal methods
and through
physical methods
and therefore, this energy transfer {feeding off of energy of negative nature} would represent the ethereal method of nourishment and other means are achieved physically.”
Some more important things:
> With each progression upward in density level, the existence for the individual conscious entity becomes less difficult. [It puts less strain on the soul energy]
> As you advance to the fourth level of density which is coming up for you, you must now make a choice as to whether to progress to service to others or to remain at the level of service to self. This will what is referred to as the ''thousand year period.''
“This is the period as measured in your calendar terms that will determine whether or not you will advance to service to others or remain at the level of service to self. And those who are described as the Lizards have chosen to firmly lock themselves into service to self. And, since they are at the highest level of density where this is possible, they must continually draw large amounts of negative energy from those at the third level, second level, and so on, which is why they do what they do. This also explains why their race is dying, because they have not been able to learn for themselves how to remove themselves from this particular form of expression to that of service to others. And, since they have such, as you would measure it, a long period of time, remained at this level and, in fact, become firmly entrenched in it, and, in fact, have increased themselves in it, this is why they are dying and desperately trying to take as much energy from you as possible and also to recreate their race metabolically.”
And it's interesting that the Cassiopaeans answered “They do.” on the question “Well, if we are sources of food and labor for them, why don't they just breed us in pens on their own planet?”
...So I guess, this is not the only planet with humans on it?
The Lizard beings have been traveling back and forth through time (as we know it), to set things up so that they can adsorb a maximum amount of negative energy with the transference from third level to fourth level that this planet is going to experience, in the hopes that they can overtake us on the fourth level and thereby accomplish several things:
1: retaining their race as a viable species;
2: increasing their numbers;
3: increasing their power;
4: expanding their race throughout the realm of fourth density.
However this all will fail, because the Greys and Lizard Beings as being STS beings in the fourth dimension only see what they want to see. Which is the opposite of the STO beings, because STO entities can see all, C's say: “We can see all that is at all points as is, not as we would want it to be.”
Also what is a noticeable important thing:
“They (the Lizzies/Lizard Beings) did not live among mankind, but they did interact directly with human beings, at various points in the past. It was at those points when human beings were ready, willing and able to accept deities appearing directly from outside sources and then worship them. Such things would not have occurred in the recent past. But, beware, it may very well occur very soon.”
Also something important is that wishful thinking in the fourth dimension is quite different than it is ''experienced'' here. Because “wishful thinking represented on the fourth level becomes reality for that level. It would be your awareness.”
I think it/this might sound quite 'wanting' to some people, 'cause being able to make all your dreams come true, make them real... I guess it might be fun to some extent, but also very sad. Because the fact is, that you're living in a non-existing reality, all looks real, but actually is fake. I think it would be boring... but... would you know that it is all your creation and thoughts? I guess not. Like C's say “It would be your awareness.”
The thing about humans being food, is something that sounds at first quite shocking and if you look around you, it is something that happens everywhere. An exchange of energy. At school I'm more like the joke-maker and the one who's mostly the energy-full one... does that mean I am the ''dominator'' and that I am the main energy-sucker? I don't know what to think of this...
The thing is, when people are around me, they get kinda 'pumped up' except if I go too far with some jokes, others are having fun and laughing but the ''target'' person... it is clear to see that she is sitting there, with having no smile on her face... Kinda mean, but it is never something I mean to do, it's like when making jokes and I see and notice other people (I mean everyone then) laugh with it, something makes me go on, then I lose control and the little mean I of me gets in charge. This doesn't happen anymore since, I gotta keep an eye on myself... External consideration...
Tomorrow [I hope...] I will go on and make a summary and some comments on the rest of Part 8. I am gonna finish it reading today.
(Again, I post now two days later, well atleast I did finish reading part 8 yesterday!) (Or maybe I am overeacting hehe)
End> 3:30 PM [15:30]
28-okt-2007
Start> 5:43 PM [17:43]
Well what I read yesterday was about some very interesting things like: how people really see the whole God thingy.
And I must post this good piece for a better understanding of what people really believe in God:
“In Arabic, the "face" of something signifies its essence or reality. To say that God turns His face toward someone means that He manifests His reality to that person through self-disclosure. If the only Face of God you CHOOSE to see, is the "Good and Loving" face - then the other will manifest in your life in other ways. It is a little like being "in love" with someone who has certain characteristics that you decide to try to change, or to "put up with" (often by changing some essential thing about yourself). You don't REALLY LOVE THAT PERSON AS HE/SHE IS. And the same is true of our "Love of God." How can we possibly LOVE Him, if we deny fully HALF of His being? If we set ouselves up as judge and jury as to what part of the universe, what part of existence, what part of GOD, is acceptable and "okay?"”I print all these Wave pages, mark them, translate words I don't understand and that last paragraph that I showed, here above was totally marked! I liked that piece, cause unfortunately it happens a lot (what was said)!
....
“To live in a condition where one denies the right of the so-called "base character traits" to exist, to consider them an "error" or a "rebellion," a "Satanic delusion," is to deny fully half of existence, fully half of God - to reject Him, to NOT love him; to love only those parts that the limited human mind consider to be "acceptable" and to "hate" those parts that are not "pleasant" and desirable to fleshly comfort - and it is to love subjectively only the part of the self that is "acceptable." And this is a crucial point. To ACCEPT one's own self, in all its many parts. That does NOT mean that one "manifests" every negative character trait, it means that one accepts, loves, and tries always to choose to manifest the noble traits and to channel the base traits productively. To love objectively, all that IS, unconditionally, both the light and the darkness, and to NEVER interfere with the Free Will of another to choose to do or be as they see fit is one of the keys; one of the "simple understandings."”
Maybe this doesn't relate much to it, but it might be an example of ignoring the bad things and only focussing on the good things:
When I was at the very beginning of this ''journey'' and I knew about the Lizzies, the meteorites, the whole Bush lies etc. I felt this urge that everyone should know this! I started to talk with this girl on Windows Messenger (I met her on deviantart.com) I don't really remember how it started, but I think... Ah yea! It started with me telling about the dissapearing of the bee's, she didn't believe me, so I linked her Laura's post (and because it was a long post/article, she of course didn't wanted to read, which is fine >their choice<). She made a remark like ''I don't really care''. Then somehow the conversation turned out to be about meteorites and I told her, that from now 'till 2012 there might be a good chance that meteorites will fall on planet Earth... and that almost every week there is a small meteorite seen. Then she started to say that I shouldn't doomthink to much, and shouldn't think about these horrible bad things, she also commented that she has a 'meteorite-phobia''/fear for meteorites. She got really upset and said I think too negative... She didn't liked it at all. After a minute she said she had to go somewhere, and I asked her 'Would you like to go on with this another day?' (I don't really know why I ask this, maybe out of hope that she might understand the seriousness?...) She replied 'No.'. , I said ''Okey :)'' And that was the last time I spoke to her.
Well as you can read, my experience with such people was kinda like 0 before. I haven't read G's (Gurdjieff) comments about that kind of people, people that do not deserve knowledge etc etc and I haven't read Laura's and C's comments before this, that you should act in favor of your destiny, try not to interfere with other people, since it is their choice of how they want to think things and see things. It will be negative for both and will only be a tiring energy-exchange... Good that I know now, now I need to really try to do this and not be tempted by my ''You should really know this''-feelings. G. also said, hmm.. can't find that quote! But he said something about, if you keep your knowledge inside you and not share it with those who do not want it or ask for it and so being yourself and not let the other I get control of you, so to speak, and that someone would see things in him/herself that he/she had never seen before. I am troubling to say his quote, so think how good he said it in one sentence!
Alright, let's carry on.
Q: How does it come that you are taking energy from someone by giving them love when not asked?Determining the needs of another, hmmm... Geez, did I have a lot of problem doing things where I asked myself time after time ''Is this determining the needs of another?''. You see, I was active on this forum, where there used to be a big commercial thingy about Indigo-children, so think about what kind of forum that was. How much energy and especially time I wasted there! Whatever I said, was being understood totally wrong which confused me and this kept going and going and going on. People started to say that I give ''negative'' feeling and that I am mean. The last conversation I had on that forum was with someone who said a whole speech about: ''What is desinformation? I don't think such thing exist.'' And everyone falling in the big hole saying ''I agree''. Of course I said something about it, it was a total... gosh how do you say it, a waste of time!! It was the last drip that let the bucket overflow, or how do you say that in english... In other words, it made me make the real decision to just disconnect that forum, say a good goodbye (like linking the wave, showing the recommended books etc.) and then leave for good! And this is what I have been doing, made a blog, finally deciding to really FINISH reading the wave! And then start the Adventures and make something like this, so that I can really learn what I am reading, and make some kind of analysing for myself and also maybe for others? If they read this :).
A: Because an STS vehicle does not learn to be an STO candidate by determining the needs of another.
Now where was I... Ah yes, determining the needs of another is STS.
Q: So, when you seek to impose or exert influence of any kind, you are, in effect, trying to play God and taking it upon yourself to decide that there is something wrong with the universe that it is up to you to fix, which amounts to judgment.So again, do not try to go against someone free will and also something else: If you see an enlightened being, it does not mean that it sends out Love. It just mean, like the C's say, that it is smart and only teach those who ask!:
A: Yes, you see, one can advise, that is okay, but do not attempt to alter the lesson.
Q: What I am trying to get to is an understanding of an enlightened being. Eddie and a LOT of other people have the idea that an enlightened being IS LOVE, and that is what they radiate, and that this is a result of being enlightened.Also something very important!
A: No, no, no, no, no. "Enlightened" does not mean good. Just smart.
Q: Okay, so there are STS and STO enlightened beings?
A: Yes, we believe the overall ratio is 50/50.
Q: Okay, what is the profile of an enlightened STO being?
A: An intelligent being who only gives.
Q: Well, since we have dealt with the idea of not giving love to those who don't ask, what do they give and to whom do they give it?
A: All; to those who ask.
“Now, a lot of people manipulate in order to get "energy." That is not asking. Begging, pleading, acting pitiful, being helpless or a klutz or a screw-up are all ways of taking energy. And, what is the result?
...if anything, such an energy transference even could enhance the effect. ...Imbalanced waves could be drawn upon by the receiver.
This means, in a very real sense, that much of the activity on this Earth that passes for "benevolent acts" consists in FEEDING the STS hierarchy. It is rather like the "co-dependent" relationship. The abuser cannot abuse you without your permission. Not only that, all the activity to "save" this or that group, to "bomb the earth and its inhabitants with love and light," may only serve to increase the negativity, the darkness, and the control system because, without having been asked, or acting against those whose choice it is to deceive, to control, to disinform, we are violating their free will in acting "against" them, even if our intentions are "good." Thus, they feed on this energy, increasing their energy in Service to Self.
We all want to "save" our loved ones from mistakes of judgment or act. We all die a little inside when we see our children following pathways that could, in some cases, actually end in their deaths. But, in truth, we can only advise, we cannot ACT against their choices if they are at or beyond the age of "consent." But, where so many of us fall by the wayside is in not understanding how much of this is "masked" in the guise of helplessness and appeals to our sense of pity and compassion.”
So thinking about acting in favor of others (stop someone to kill for example, cause it can save others), is still acting against one's free will (not the thinking, but doing it, yknow) and it would be determining the needs of another (thinking: better for you not to)!
And this could even make the killer want more: ''if anything, such an energy transference even could enhance the effect''
Hey, I'll get back to this tomorrow, 'cause got some homework to do.
End> 8:09 PM [20:09]
1-November-2007
Start> Forgot PM [Forgot]
Going on with the last pages of the Wave Part 8:
So it seems that people who generate sensations of pity, do not really pity anybody but themselves.And when someone gives pity, when someone sends love and light to those who complain, to those in darkness and want to be ''saved'' without effort on their own part , it seems that you essentiallyt are giving power to their further disintegration, or contraction into self-ishness.
In other words: You are empowering their descent into STS.
Also something important:
“You need to act in facor of your destiny.”
And:
(L) “In other words, if we are involved with people who are not aware, who do not understand the situation, the controls and manipulations from other densities; and further, if they don't WANT to learn, we are in a ''no-win'' situation, and the only real option is to extricate ourselves, otherwise we are ''dancing with the Devil,'' so to speak.”
A ''no-win'' situation indeed! It is only a very tiring energy exchange which leads to nothing, only to the knowledge that it is going nowhere... And that the best thing that you can do is indeed: Extricate.
A: Once you have truly learned the program, just plug it in. Q: I guess once you have truly learned what is being said here, just plug it in... All you have to do is learn the patterns of behavior, the subtle signs, and you will always have the ability of avoiding it. Your own as well as others.
Q: So, once you have learned the program from this person, you will be able to avoid getting into another, similar one. (T) But, I should have learned it from H. I did the same thing twice.
A: The signs were present, but you did not read them. You did not yet know the program. Anticipate not!
Q: I guess that means that when you are thinking that you can change another person, or that changing something about what you are doing naturally will help them, you are anticipating.
A: Or that it would be different that it turned out to be. Lesson number 1: Always expect attack. Lesson number 2: Know the modes of same. Lesson number 3: Know how to conteract same.
Q: I guess that it is true that anything that tends to cause interference in doing what one is here to do could be considered attack. Whether it is your mother being sick, or your kid falling off a bicycle and breaking his arm. It is all related to lack of vigilance on the part of the one who is the conduit of attack.
A: When you are under attack, expect the unexpected, if it is going to cause problems...
Q: So, if there is something that can cause problems, expect it to happen.
A: But, if you expect it, you learn how to "head it off," thus neutralizing it. This is called vigilance, which is rooted in knowledge. And, what does knowledge do?
Q: Protects! I guess that a person just has to come to the full realization that virtually everything that happens on the planet - no exceptions - is a symbol of some interaction of STS vs STO energy at higher levels.
A: Yes, and for many, that is not as of yet realized. It must be part of a natural learning process.
So the lessons are:
1 - Always expect attack.
2- Know the modes of same.
3- Know how to conteract same.
So keep your eyes open and try not to miss anything and try to act in favor of your destiny.
Now about time. It is a non-existing ''thing'' that is ''made up'' in our reality and we are manipulated so much that it is very hard for us to unplug ourselves from it.
C's:
“We have already told you that it is a non-existent, artificial creation of illusion for the point of learning at the level where you are at or were, and once you have left that level, you no longer need it.”Time does not exist, but what does this mean for us? Do we need to act now that time really doesn't exist, or do we adjust?
(T) Do you wear a watch? (L) No. (SV) I have to because of my schedule. (T) But, you wear the watch because other people believe in time? (SV) Yes. (T) And that is out of courtesy for their belief, not your belief.
A: That is precisely correct. While you are still in this third density it is still necessary for you to conform, to a certain extent, to the ways of others who are more comfortable within the realm of third density. But, as we have stated previously, perhaps it is "time" for you to begin preparing for fourth density and not concern yourself any more than is absolutely necessary with all the where's and why's and what for's of third density reality. This truly is behind you, now, and we know that because we can see from all levels six through one and back again in full cycle.
As the C's have said it, it is still necessary for you to conform, ot a certain extent, to the ways of others who are more comfortable within the realm of third density.
A nice ending of part 8 by Laura:
So, having shared with you some of the "simple understandings" that we have been learning in this process, I would like to leave you, again, with the thought:
An STS vehicle does not learn how to be an STO candidate by determining the needs of another.
We need to think long and hard about this. How many groups and religions and cultures and political systems down through the Millennia have acted in this very way? The one's that come chiefly to my mind are, of course, the monotheistic religions and all the scare tactics and hypnotic efforts used by them to "save" humanity. It's really scary when you think about it.
We are ALL Service to Self here in 3rd density - we wouldn't be here otherwise. Struggling against it isn't going to help. But, learning to make your choices so that you are the LEAST avaialable "food" for other beings (acting "in favor" of your destiny), and stopping your own feeding on the energy and resources of others is definitely a plus. There ARE relationships where it is agreed that the members will feed one another with knowledge and support and emotional energy, time and money, and all other things. And if it is done in honesty, with no hidden agendas, because each wants and needs what the other wants and needs to offer, then that is symbiosis and is Service to Others.
So, essentially, the difference between being STS, but moving in the direction of STO (an STO candidate) and being STS that is really "evil," seems to consist in deliberately CHOOSING STS. Most people are duped and tricked into choosing it. When they begin to understand what it is that they are really doing, they begin to "wake up." And, when they wake up, they then make the choice - to give or to take. And the ALL blinks neither at the Darkness nor at the Light.
Remember, density refers to one's conscious awareness only. Once one is aware, ALL conforms to that awareness.
Everywhere you look, there is the Face of God.
Learned a lot of valuable information on this part, I just took a look at part 9 and it's about weird beings that we have seen throughout the decades on earth. Window fallers? Interesting!
End> 4:50 PM [16:50]
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Great blog. I really like the stretches and the effort you put into this.
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