In de yahoo groep waarin ik zit, werd de vraag over de ''Creator'' gesteld, 7d, over hoe alles is gecreëerd enz.
Een van de members liet een stuk tekst van het boek "Beëlzebubs verhalen aan zijn kleinzoon" zien waarbij er wordt gepraat over hoe alles gemaakt werd. Letterlijk of niet en hoe het helemaal in elkaar zit, gebruik ik dit bericht voor. Om mijn aantekeningen en schetsen te laten zien, voor mezelf en voor anderen. Vergeet niet dat dit schetsen zijn, het betekent niet dat ik het juist heb, ik ben enkel aan het onderzoeken; ik weet niets.
Een van de members liet een stuk tekst van het boek "Beëlzebubs verhalen aan zijn kleinzoon" zien waarbij er wordt gepraat over hoe alles gemaakt werd. Letterlijk of niet en hoe het helemaal in elkaar zit, gebruik ik dit bericht voor. Om mijn aantekeningen en schetsen te laten zien, voor mezelf en voor anderen. Vergeet niet dat dit schetsen zijn, het betekent niet dat ik het juist heb, ik ben enkel aan het onderzoeken; ik weet niets.
De member zei [klik om te vergroten]:
Ik begreep deze post binnen het ''kennis'' die ik toen bezat. (Niet veel kennis, tenminste niet over Gurdjieff's ideeen over het Universum. (Later kwam ik erachter dat G.: eigenlijk dus het commentaar van de member was, het was niet letterlijk van het boek genomen, het was meer van wat hij ervan begreep, maar dit begreep ik toen niet, ik dacht dat Gurdjieff dat zei) Ik antwoordde:
Nou ik heb tot nu toe wel wat meer info verzameld betreft het stuk van Gurdjieff's stukje uit het boek Beëlzebub.. die dezelfde member na deze reactie postte:
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>> Ik begon met het analyseren van dit stukje om te kijken wat ik er van begreep (toen begreep ik het nog gebaseerd op mijn kennis van toen, maar daarna had ik wat onderzoek gedaan en nu schrijf ik wat ik er nu van begrijp, maar betekent niet dat wat ik er nu van begrijp juist is. Ik ga beginnen om elk stukje te proberen te begrijpen):
.... But even before you can understand this, you should understand why souls exist in the Universe at all, and why souls, as well as the whole of the Universe, were created by Our Almighty Creator. "So listen attentively and try to assimilate these ideas into yourself. "Our Creator was compelled to create the Universe for the following reason: "When nothing else as yet was in the World, in the whole of the Universe, only the Sun-Absolute existed, and there on this Sun-Absolute, Our Almighty God existed with only His Cherubim and Seraphim.? > Ik weet niet echt goed wat hij bedoelt met Zijn ''Cherubim'' en ''Seraphim'', maar misschien wordt dat nog duidelijk als ik doorga met mijn onderzoek.
Purgatory 2"Our Endlessness, Almighty God, once observed that the Sun-Absolute, itself, on which He existed was, owing to Time, diminishing gradually but perceptibly in volume, and He decided immediately to review all the Laws maintaining the existence of the Sun-Absolute. "In the course of this search, He discovered that the cause of the diminution of the Sun is the Heropass, that is to say, Time, which gradually diminishes the substance of every force. "Hier kan je lezen dat 'the Sun-Absolute' steeds kleiner werd en dit kwam door Tijd (Heropass).
Ik zei nog een keer:
So if Our Endlessness wanted to create anything, it would mean that the potentialities will decrease. And this would then diminish the volume of the SA itself. So he had to think of something that would maintain the 'existing potential state'.
Iemand anders zei:
I think this is a good way of looking at. I would think that for anything to `happen' in the Sun Absolute (such as a creative act or even a `thought') then there will be a change of potential since for anything to happen there it must happen in some kind of `time'. So if the potential is diminished when the Sun Absolute does anything, thenthe the Sun Absolute must `shrink.' That might be one way of looking at it.
G spoke of the "forced need" for the Sun Absolute to create the existing universe.
Plato in Timaeus spoke of time as the "moving image of eternity." He also spoke of `necessity' in the design of the universe and this might relate to G's "forced need."
#EDIT (wat iemand zei op zijn site) [red emphasis mine]:
[One more comment: according to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, the entropy in a closed system is increasing, the chaos is increasing with time. That is how I read "Our Endlessness, Almighty God, once observed that the Sun-Absolute, itself, on which He existed was, owing to Time, diminishing gradually but perceptibly in volume..." The "volume" stands here, I think, for "order". But the second law of thermodynamics does not apply to an open system. On the other hand an open system is unpredictable. Which is a danger, but also a hope.]
En op die site van Second Law of Thermodynamics staat [emphasis mine]:
One of the most common criticisms of evolutionary theory is that it supposedly violates the second law of thermodynamics. This law states that in a closed system, disorder grows and less energy is available for work. A good example of this is a battery; it breaks down as it works, and, in fact, breaks down even when it is not working.#
Evolution, on the other hand, appears to be doing the exact opposite: life is evolving from the simple to the complex, and everywhere we look we see increasing order, not disorder. The key to the creationist's confusion here is the forgotten phrase in a closed system. A closed system is one that receives no fresh inputs of energy from an outside source. An open system does. For example, consider a lava lamp. When a lava lamp is turned on, incoming energy in the form of electricity heats the base of the lamp. This creates a gas bubble out of the lava, which then rises to the top. This in turn drives the cooler lava down to the bottom, which then turns into another gas bubble. Soon a circular flow is established. There is a high degree of order to this open system. But turn the lava lamp off, and the circular flow stops. Without incoming energy, disorder grows, and all traces of a system disappear.
As for the earth, it is not a closed system. It receives an endless supply of energy from the sun, which fuels the life process and creates growing order. It may certainly be true that the universe as a whole is a closed system, and its stars will burn out billions of years from now, creating the disorder predicted by the second law of thermodynamics. But it is obvious there are variations at many local levels, including our own solar system. This subsystem should remain open for another 5 billion years, when our sun is predicted to die out.
Some creationists try to confuse the subject, with arguments along the lines of: "It doesn't matter if it's open or closed. The sun can shine a million years on a rock, but it isn't going to turn that rock into organic life." But this is a different argument, an argument of chemistry. The original argument was one of thermodynamics, which claims that there is not enough energy to fuel life's processes. We've just shown that there is; problems of chemistry are a different issue which should be addressed in separate arguments.
"As this question was very serious, He became thoughtful, and in these Divine reflections of His, He saw clearly, that, if this Heropass should continue to reduce the volume of the Sun-Absolute in this way, then sooner or later, it would eventually be to its complete destruction. Our Endlessness was then compelled to undertake several appropriate measures, so that this destruction of the Sun-Absolute from the Heropass should be averted.Hij zag in dat er iets verandert moest worden. Hij moest enkele beslissingen nemen, zodat deze vernietiging van de 'Sun-Absolute' kan worden voorkomen (of juist dat de rollen kan worden omgedraaid).
"After great labours, He completely averted the whole of the threatened danger; and He accomplished this, in the following way: "You must know that up till then the Sun-Absolute had in itself, for its existence, only the force of the 'Autoegokrat'; that is, an independent force depending on nothing external itself. This same force, in its turn, was formed only of two Laws, namely, the Law of 'Triamonia' and the Law of 'Eftologodiksis'. To these two Laws, Our Creator added the third force, called 'Fagolgiria', by means of which the 'Autoegokrat' became the 'Trogoautoegokrat', that is, a force depending on other forces exterior to itself.Dus de 'Sun-Absolute' had in zichzelf alleen de kracht of force van de 'Autoegokrat':
'an independent force depending on nothing external itself', dus eigenlijk een onafhankelijke kracht. Deze zelfde kracht of force was gevormd uit twee Wetten, namelijk de Wet van 'Triamonia' en de Wet van 'Eftologodiksis'. Bij deze twee Wetten, voegde Onze 'Creator' een derde kracht of force, genaamd 'Fagolgiria' en hierdoor werd 'Autoegokrat': 'Trogautoegokrat' en 'Trogautoegokrat' is a force depending on other forces exterior to itself, dus een afhankelijke kracht. Dus effe een ruige schets:
Triamonia + Eftologoiksis + Fagolgiria = Trog > Trogautoegokrat
Or, as it might be said, after the addition of the Fagologiria, the Laws of Triamonia and Eftologodiksis could function only by feeding on the substances and forces coming from without. "When I shall explain later, pay special attention, and try to understand very clearly these Laws of Triamonia and Eftologidiksis, since a complete understanding these two Laws will enable you to understand completely all other laws, both of the Creation, as well as of the maintenance of the Universe.! > Deze twee Wetten schijnen zeer belangrijk te zijn. Met behulp van het boek Beelzebub en andere artikelen zal ik hierna proberen een zo goed mogelijk betekenis van deze twee Wetten proberen neer te zetten. Ook lees je hier dat door toevoeging van Fagolgiria, de twee Wetten, Traimonia en Eftologodiksis alleen konden functioneren door zich te 'voeden' op de substanties en krachten die van buiten komen.
"I have already told you that the Sun-Absolute formerly existed only owing to these two independent Laws. "The first of these two laws was just the Triamonia, or as it is also called, the law of 'Threefoldness'. This Law of Threefoldness, in its turn consists of three forces, called 'Surpotheos', 'Surpakiros', and 'Surpathanatos'. But, for convenience, mathematics calls these three forces of the Law of Threefoldness,! + ? > Dus Wet van Triamonia (of Threefoldness): vb.:
the force 'Plus', the force 'Minus', and the force 'Neutralizing'; or 'Pushing', 'Resisting', and 'Equilibrium'. On certain planets, these three forces are also called 'God the Father,' 'God the Son' and 'God the Holy Ghost'. "The second Law maintaining the Sun-Absolute is the law of Eftologodiksis; and this law is a force constantly evolving and involving in itself. The highest physico-chemical knowledge formulates this force as follows: 'The flowing of the line of a force which constantly deflects according to the law, with its ends meeting again.'
- Plus +
- Minus -
- Neutralizing .
- 'The flowing of the line of a force which constantly deflects according to the law, with its ends meeting again.'
Purgatory 3"When our Endlessness decided to make the existence of the Sun-Absolute Trogoautoegocratic, since forces, or substances, coming from outside were necessary for such an existence, He decided first of all to create the sourcesAllereerst besloot Hij om de bronnen te maken waaruit deze substanties en krachten komen voor de 'Sun-Absolute' nu die Trogautoegocratisch is.
whence these forces and substances could come.
"He created them in the following way: He directed the action of the Laws of Triamonia and Eftologodiksis, which had been in the Sun-Absolute itself, from within the Sun-Absolute to without, and from this resulted what is now called, 'The Word God' or 'Emanation.' From that moment, the Sun-Absolute began to emanate from itself the action of the forces of the Triamonia and the Eftologodiksis, and this sameZo maakte hij de bronnen:
emanation began to spread everywhere in the Universe.
Hij 'verwees' de 'acties' van de Wet van Triamonia en Eftologodiksis van binnenin de Sun-Absolute, naar buiten. En hieruit resulteerde, wat we nu noemen: 'Het Woord God' of 'Emanatie'. Vanaf dat moment, begon de Sun-Absolute vanuit zichzelf de acties van de krachten van Triamonia en de Eftologodiksis eruit te laten 'vloeien' en deze zelfde emanatie begon zich overal te spreiden in het Universum.
"It is necessary to tell you, that when Our Creator directed the forces of the Sun-Absolute from within out, the emanations obtained from this had not at first, for a reason which I shall afterwards explain, the possibility of containing all three forces of the Triamonia in a vivifying state. Only two of these were vivifying, namely, the? > "The emanations obtained from this had not at first [...] the possibility of containing all three forces [...]" Dus eerst hadden de emanaties niet de mogelijkheid om alle drie de krachten te kunnen bevatten. Alleen twee waren ''levend'', namelijk de Positieve Kracht en de Negatieve Kracht.
Positive Force and the Negative Force.
Our Almighty Endlessness was therefore obliged to vivify the third force, the Neutralising Force, during the First Creation by the force of His Own Will. And having concentrated this, His force of Will, He created from the emanations issuing from the Sun-Absolute certain fixed points. And later, at these fixed points, again by the force of His Will, and with the help of the Laws of Triamonia and Eftologodiksis, which were already formed in these fixed points, Our Endlessness began to create gradually the 'corresponding', as the result of which the Suns were formed which exist at the present time.! > Dus was onze Almachtige Eindeloosheid verplicht om de derde kracht te verlevendigen (de Neutraliserende Kracht), tijdens de Eerste Creatie door de kracht van Zijn Eigen Wil. Door te concentreren, creëerde hij van de emanaties die uit de Sun-Absolute kwamen bepaalde 'geconcentreerde' punten. En later op deze 'geconcentreerde' punten, weer door de kracht van Zijn Wil and met behulp van de Wet van Triamonia en Eftologodiksis (die al gevormd waren in deze punten), begon onze Eindeloosheid de 'corresponding' te creëren, en als resultaat werden de Zonnen gevormd.
After the creation of all that was necessary on these suns, the latter began to emanate also. They became as the Sun-Absolute, but as Absolute of the 'Second Grade.'Nadat de creatie van alles, dat noodzakelijk was op deze zonnen, begon ook het laatste te 'manifesteren'. Ze (de zonnen) werden net als de Sun-Absolute, maar dan Absolute van de 'Tweede Graad'.
"The emanations of the Absolutes of the second grade having been established, everything thereafter was created without the Will of Our Creator taking part in it. Further creations began to be formed automatically owing only to the Laws of Triamonia and Eftologodiksis and chiefly because these laws were now 'fagolished,' that is, could everywhere function only owing to the forces coming from without.Nu de emanaties van de Absoluten van de tweede graad 'gedaan' is, werd alles erna gecreëerd zonder 'gebruikmaking' van de Wil van Onze Creator. Verdere creaties begonnen automatisch gevormd te worden alleen 'door' de Wetten van Triamonia en Eftologodiksis en vooral doordat deze wetten nu 'fagolished' zijn, m.a.w., ze kunnen overal functioneren alleen 'door' de krachten komend van buiten.
From that time forward, the Laws of Triamonia and Eftologodiksis began to make their cycles in all their octaves, both inside the suns and outside. "The automatic creation of the suns proceeded further in the following way: the emanations of the newly-created suns became to each other as positive and negative, and the emanations of the Sun-Absolute itself became neutralising for these emanations of the newly created suns.? > Vanaf toen, begonnen de Wetten van Triamonia en Eftologodiksis hun cyclussen in al hun octaven, zowel binnen de zonnen als buiten. De automatische creatie van de zonnen verliep verder zo: de emanaties van de nieuw-gecreëerde zonnen werden voor elkaar als positief en negatief, en de emanaties van de Sun-Absolute zelf werden neutraliserend voor deze emanaties van de nieuw-gecreëerde zonnen.
Owing to this established Law of Triamonia, and like-wise to the Law of Eftologodiksis, which already began to make its outer chief cycle, there began to concentrate around each newly created sun, further new fixed points, in which and upon which again, owing to the same laws, 'The corresponding' gradually began to be created. As a result, suns again were formed, but suns of the third grade. "Further, upon these suns of the third grade, on the basis of the chief cycle of the Law of Eftologodiksis, and on the basis of the greatest deflection contained in this law, the smallest likenesses of the Megalocosmos began to be formed; and, still further, owing to a law, also cosmic, called the 'Accumulation of Similarities,' forms of these smallest similarities of the Megalocosmos were grouped together.Rond elke nieuwe gecreëerde zon begonnen zich verder nieuwe punten te concentreren, in welke en op welke, weer, 'door' dezelfde wetten, 'de corresponding' gecreëerd begon te worden. Als resultaat, werden er weer zonnen gevormd, maar zonnen van de derde graad. Verder,
- op deze zonnen van de derde graad,
- op de basis van de 'opperste' cyclus van de Wet van Eftologodiksis
- en op de basis van de grootste 'buiging' gevestigd in deze Wet,
Zonnen van de derde graad > likenesses van de Megalocosmos > opeenhoping van Similarities
Having thus accomplished its chief outer cycle, Purgatory 4 the Law of Eftologodiksis
thenceforward entered quite within the cosmoses created on different scales, and began to make its evolutions and involutions in them.
"The part subsequently played by these cosmoses of differing scales, consisted, how shall I tell you, in their becoming something like machines in the Universe, in which
machines, owing to these two fagolised laws, that is Triamonia and Eftologodiksis, the cosmoses began to convert, or as it is said, to transform all the substance-matters of the Universe of all densities and all rates of vibration; that is to say, those machine-cosmoses began to convert substance-matters from one degree to another degree in the chief octave of the cosmic substances.
"Thus, owing to these machine-cosmoses, all substances began to evolve and involve and from this arose the exchange of substances owing to which a reciprocal feeding resulted in all the cosmoses. In this reciprocal feeding, the Sun-Absolute also took part. In this manner Trogoautoegokrat was established in the Universe and all the cosmoses began to maintain the existence of each other by this reciprocal feeding. "Each cosmos itself began, either to serve as food, or to prepare matters through itself for other cosmoses. And by this Trogoautoegokrat that constant equilibrium was established which now deprives the Heropass of the possibility of doingDus, 'door' deze machine-kosmoses, begonnen alle substanties te evolueren en te involueren en hieruit voortkwam de uitwisseling van substanties 'dankzij' een resulterende wederkerige voeding in alle kosmoses. In deze wederkerige voeding, nam de Sun-Absolute ook deel. Op deze manier was Trogautoegokrat gevestigd in de Universum en al de kosmoses begonnen het onstaan van elkaar in stand te houden door deze wederkerige voeding. Elke kosmos begon, of te dienen als voedsel, of materie voor te bereiden door/uit zichzelf voor andere kosmoses. En door deze Trogautoegokrat was constante evenwicht/equilibrium gevestigd, die nu de mogelijkheid ontnam van de Heropass om iets onverwachts te veroorzaken aan onze Sun-Absolute.
anything unexpected to our Sun-Absolute.
"Names were then given to these cosmoses, and these names exist even to the present day. "Thus our whole Universe had been called 'Megalocosmos' since then: and this Megalocosmos consists of seven cosmoses, these seven cosmoses are called as follows: ?1) The Sun-Absolute itself: 'Protocosmos'. ?2) All the newly created suns together: 'Mecrocosmos'. ?3) Each newly-created sun individually: 'Defterocosmos'. ?4) The third grade suns called: 'Messacosmos'. ?5) Those smallest similarities of the Megalocosmos, which were formed on the Messacosmoses were called 'Microcosmoses' ?6) Those forms accumulating from these Microcosmoses wereNamen werden gegeven aan deze kosmoses, en deze namen ontstaan zelfs tot nu. Dus onze hele Universum werd genoemd 'Megalocosmos' op dat moment: en deze Megalocosmos bestaat uit zzeven kosmoses, deze zeven kosmoses worden genoemd:
called: 'Tritacosmoses'.
1. De Sun-Absolute zelf: 'Protocosmos'
2. Al de nieuwe gecreëerde zonnen samen: 'Mecrocosmos'
3. Elk nieuw-gecreëerde zon individueel: 'Defterocosmos'
4. De derde graad zonnen genoemd: 'Messacosmos' > Planeten
5. Die kleinste 'similarities van de Megalocosmos' die gevormd werden op de Messacosmoses werden genoemd 'Microcosmoses'
6. Die vormingen 'komend uit' deze Microcosmoses werden genoemd: 'Tritacosmoses' > Wezens die de planeten bewonen
"By the way, you must know that the Messacosmoses are just those points of the Universe, which we now call planets, and Tritacosmoses are just those forms, now called beings, which inhabit the planets. "Names were given then also to the emanations and radiations of the suns of all three grades. The Emanations of the Sun-Absolute were called, 'Ayalogos'; the emanation of the newly-created suns, 'Okidonos'; and the radiations of the planets were called 'Dinamodonis'.Er werden ook namen gegeven voor de emanaties en radiaties van de zonnen van alle drie de graden.
- Emanaties van de Sun-Absolute > Ayalogos
- Emanatie van de nieuw-gecreëerde zonnen > Okidonos
- Radiaties van de planeten > Dinamodonis
Purgatory 5"When all had become regulated in these cosmoses and their harmonious mechanical reciprocal maintenance, through reciprocal feeding had been finally established, then, my dear Hassein, in one of these cosmoses, namely, in the Tritacosmos, owing to the fact that this Tritacosmos had received its form on the surface of the Messacosmos, that it, of the planets, and owing to the fact that this surface by chance afforded suitable possibilities and conditions, and, of course, also, owing to the fact that this cosmos was a part of the fulfilment of the Trogoautoegocrat, that is, could exist owing to the support of other cosmoses, and in turn served to produce substances for support of other cosmoses, - owing to all these reasons, on certain planets, among these Tritacosmoses, the possibility of mechanicalWanneer alles werd 'gereguleerd' in deze kosmoses en hun harmonieuze mechanische wederkerende 'onderhoud', die door wederkerend voeding, eindelijk werd gevestigd, toen, in een van deze kosmoses, namelijk in de Tritakosmos, '
movement on the surface of those planets was obtained.
- dankzij' het feit dat deze Tritacosmos zijn vorm had ontvangen op de vlakte van de Messakosmos (planeten),
- en 'dankzij' het feit dat deze vlakte door kans geschikte mogelijkheden en condities opleverden, en, natuurlijk, ook 'dankzij' het feit dat deze kosmos een deel was van de voltooiing van de Trogautoegocrat, m.a.w., kon ontstaan 'dankzij' de steun van andere kosmoses, en omgekeerd diende om substanties te produceren voor de steun van andere kosmoses, -
"This mechanical movement was specially helped by the fact that the need of food of this, as well as of all other cosmoses, was not continuous but periodic. "When our Endlessness observed this unforeseen phenomenon, the idea first arose in Him for the governance of the enlarged Universe, to create for Himself from these Tritacosomoses, a certain help......Deze mechanische beweging was vooral geholpen door het feit dat de noodzaak van voedsel van deze, en ook van alle andere kosmoses, niet continu was maar periodiek. Wanneer onze Eindeloosheid deze onvoorziene fenomeen observeerde, kwam eerst het idee in Hem op om voor de regeling van de vergrote Universum, om voor Hemzelf van deze Tritakosmoses, enige hulp te creëren...
Ik had een vraagje over deze 'periodieke noodzaak van voeding' i.p.v. de continu voeding.
" I still don't quite get what is meant with: that the need of food was 'periodic' and not 'continuous'. Maybe further reading could help me out. Or maybe you guys came up with new thoughts and/or ideas!"
Waarbij iemand antwoordde:
"I could be wrong but it sounds to me like it means any creature that's able to move about doesn't have to feed themselves 24/7. They feed when they're hungry etc., as opposed to static things like trees which could be thought of as continually feeding off the soil and sunlight. creatures that don't have to constantly feed would probably be of more potential help because they could do other things."
Waarop ik antwoordde:
"Hmm yes, that could be a good explanation. Maybe we also have an "existing (potential) state" which 'needs' to be sustained by "influences from outside". And this happens periodically, because, as you said, we don't have to be fed 24/7. Only when we're hungry." And I think this excerpt of ISOTM kind of relates to this.. :
p.84-85
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G:
["But by studying himself, the manifestations of his thought, consciousness, activity—his habits, his desires, and so on—man may learn to observe and to see in himself the action of the three forces. Let us suppose, for instance, that a man wants to work on himself in order to change certain of his characteristics, to attain a higher level of being. His desire, his initiative, is the active force. The inertia of all his habitual psychological life which shows opposition to his initiative will be the passive or the negative force. The two forces will either counterbalance one another, or one will completely conquer the other, but, at the same time, it will become too weak for any further action. Thus the two forces will, as it were, revolve one around the other, one absorbing the other and producing no result whatever. This may continue for a lifetime. A man may feel desire and initiative. But all this initiative may be absorbed in overcoming the habitual inertia of life, leaving nothing for the purpose towards which the initiative ought to be directed. And so it may go on until the third force makes its appearance, in the form, for instance, of {new knowledge}, showing at once the advantage or the necessity of work on oneself and, in this way, supporting and strengthening the initiative. Then the initiative, with the support of this third force, may conquer inertia and the man becomes active in the desired direction.]
Vertaald (p.91):
"Maar door zichzelf te bestuderen, de uitingen van zijn denken, bewustzijn, werkzaamheid, gewoonten, verlangens, enzovoorts, kan de mens in zichzelf de werking van de drie krachten leren waarnemen en zien. Laten wij ons bijvoorbeeld eens voorstellen dat iemand aan zichzelf wil werken om bepaalde eigenschappen te veranderen, een hoger zijns-niveau te bereiken. Zijn verlangen, zijn initiatief is de actieve kracht. De inertie van zijn gewone psychische leven die zich tegen zijn initiatief verzet, vormt de passieve of negatieve kracht. De twee krachten zullen of elkaar in evenwicht houden, of de een zal de ander geheel overwinnen maar dan te zwak worden voor enige verdere actie. Zo ziullen de twee krachten als het ware om elkaar heen blijven draaien waarbij de een de ander absorbeert zonder een enkel resultaat op te leveren. Dit kan een geheel leven zo voortduren. Iemand kan een verlangen voelen tot het nemen van initiatief. Maar alle kracht van dit inititaief kan worden verbruikt aan de inspanning voor het overwinnen van de gewone traagheid van het leven zodat er niets overblijkft voor het doel waarop het initiatief gericht zou moeten zijn. En dit kan zo doorgaan totday de derde kracht optreedt, bijvoorbeeld in de vorm van een nieuw weten dat onmiddellijk het voordeel of de noodzaak van werken aan zichzelf in het licht stelt en op deze wijze het initiatief steunt en versterkt. Dan kan het initiatief met de steun van deze derde kracht de inertie overwinnen en de mens wordt ctief in de gewenste richting.
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Alle vragen oid op een rijtje:
- Wat hij bedoelt met Zijn ''Cherubim'' en ''Seraphim''
- Meer info over de twee wetten Triamonia en Eftologodiksis
- Waarom er eerst de derde kracht niet 'levend' was (Neutraliserende)
- Wat er precies bedoeld werd dat de Eerste Creatie door Zijn Wil gecreëerd kon worden
- Meer info over de kosmoses van verschillende schalen
- Voor de zekerheid: waarom periodiek wel en niet continu
>> Nu neem ik info uit het boek "Op zoek naar het wonderbaarlijke"/"In search of the Miraculous". Dit vakje kan met de tijd worden vergroot omdat ik het boek nog niet helemaal uit heb.
Ik kopieer eerst het stukje die ik zelf heb geschreven en dan ga ik er verder op in (**...** is mijn commentaar) [...] is tekst uit het boek OZNHW/ISOTM:
["Before examining these influences," began G., "and the laws of transformation of Unity into Plurality, we must examine the fundamental law that creates all phenomena in all the diversity or unity of all universes.]
**He said: "The Laws of transformation of Unity into Plurality" (which reminds me of the creation of the whole of the Universe)**
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["This is the 'Law of Three' or the law of the three principles or the three forces. It consists of the fact that every phenomenon, on whatever scale and in whatever world it may take place, from molecular to cosmic phenomena, is the result of the combination or the meeting of three different and opposing forces.]
**Okay so: Every phenomenon is the RESULT of the COMBINATION or the
MEETING of three different and opposing forces. Reading 'Law of Three' reminded me of the law of Triamonia (the law of Threefoldness).
This is what I thought of, looking at the excerpt from Beelzebubs tales:**
""It is necessary to tell you, that when Our Creator directed the forces of the Sun-Absolute from within out, the emanations obtained from this had not at first, for a reason which I shall afterwards explain, the possibility of containing all three forces of the Triamonia in a vivifying state. Only two of these were vivifying, namely, the Positive Force and the Negative Force."
**Note: ONLY TWO were vivifying, the positive and the negative. (Why this was the case, I wonder too)**
"Our Almighty Endlessness was therefore obliged to vivify the third force, the Neutralising Force, during the First Creation by the force of His Own Will."
**Note: OBLIGED and FIRST CREATION.
So this 'first creation' is a phenomenon which is the result of the COMBINATION or the meeting of the three different and opposing forces. So maybe that's why he was obliged to add the third force. Because only a combination of the three forces can cause a phenomenon.**
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Now I go on with what was said in Part IV of ISOTM:
[Contemporary thought realizes the existence of two forces and the necessity of these two forces for the production of a phenomenon: force and resistance, positive and negative magnetism, positive and negative electricity, male and female cells, and so on. But it does not observe even these two forces always and everywhere. No question has ever been raised as to the third, or if it has been raised it has scarcely been heard.
"According to real, exact knowledge, one force, or two forces, can never produce a phenomenon. The presence of a third force is necessary, for it is only with the help of a third force that the first two can produce what may be called a phenomenon, no matter in what sphere.]
**Here again G. explains that only THREE forces can produce a phenomenon.**
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[ [...] "Returning to the world in which we live we may now say that in the Absolute, as well as in everything else, three forces are active: the active, the passive, and the neutralizing. But since by its very nature everything in the Absolute constitutes one whole the three forces also constitute one whole. Moreover in forming one independent whole the three forces possess a full and independent will, full consciousness, full understanding of themselves and of everything they do. [...] "The three forces of the Absolute, constituting one whole, separate and unite by their own will and by their own decision, and at the points of junction they create phenomena, or 'worlds.' These worlds, created by the will of the Absolute, depend entirely upon this will in everything that concerns their own existence. In each of these worlds the three forces again act. Since, however, each of these worlds is now not the whole, but
only a part, then the three forces in them do not form a single whole. It is now a case of three wills, three consciousnesses, three unities. Each of the three forces contains within it the possibility of all three forces, but at the meeting point of the three forces each of them manifests only one principle—the active, the passive, or the neutralizing. The three forces together form a trinity which produces new phenomena. But this trinity is different, it is not that which was in the Absolute, where the three forces formed an indivisible whole and possessed one single will and one single consciousness. In the worlds of the second order the three forces are now divided and their meeting points are now of a different nature. In the Absolute the
moment and the point of their meeting is determined by their single will. In the worlds of the second order, where there is no longer a single will but three wills, the points of issue are each determined by a separate will, independent of the others, and therefore the meeting point becomes accidental or mechanical. The will of the Absolute creates the worlds of the second order and governs them, but it does not govern their creative work, in which a mechanical element makes its appearance.]
**Ok, so this is really awesome.
G. says that "The will of the Absolute creates the worlds of the second order and governs them, but it does NOT govern their creative work, in which a mechanical element makes its appearance."
and in Beelzebub we can read:
"After the creation of all that was necessary on these suns, the latter began to emanate also. They became as the Sun-Absolute, but as Absolute of the 'Second Grade.' "The emanations of the Absolutes of the second grade having been established, everything thereafter was created without the Will of Our Creator taking part in it."
And now we can understand this (the latter) better, because now we can understand that the 'Absolute of the 'Second Grade'' has THREE WILLS instead of just one single will (and/or consciousness).
En ook dat alles erna automatisch werd gecreeerd omdat er nu drie willen zijn en dus deze drie willen kunnen niet hetzelfde willen, en als deze drie willen plotseling bij elkaar komen, is dit dus toeval. Een ''ongelukje''.
Maybe this part:
""The automatic creation of the suns proceeded further in the following way: the emanations of the newly-created suns became to each other as positive and negative, and the emanations of the Sun-Absolute itself became neutralising for these emanations of the newly created suns."
corresponds to the Three Wills.**
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["Let us imagine the Absolute as a circle and in it a number of other circles, worlds of the second order. Let us take one of these circles. The Absolute is designated by the number 1, because the three forces constitute one whole in the Absolute, and the small circles we will designate by the number 3, because in a world of the second order the three forces are already divided.
"The three divided forces in the worlds of the second order, meeting together in each of these worlds, create new worlds of the third order. Let us take one of these worlds. The worlds of the third order, created by the three forces which act semimechanically, no longer depend upon the single will of the Absolute but upon three mechanical laws. These worlds are created by the three forces. And having been created they manifest three new forces of their own. Thus the number
of forces acting in the worlds of the third order will be six. In the diagram the circle of the third order is designated by the number 6 (3 plus 3). In these worlds are created worlds of a new order, the fourth order. In the worlds of the fourth order there act three forces of the world of the second order, six forces of the world of the third order, and three of their own, twelve forces altogether. Let us take one of these worlds and designate it by the number 12 (3 plus 6 plus 3). Being subject to a greater number of laws these worlds stand still further away from the single will of the Absolute and are still more mechanical. The worlds created within these worlds will be governed by twenty-four forces (3 plus 6 plus 12 plus 3). The worlds created within these worlds will be governed by forty-eight forces, the number 48 being made up as follows: three forces of the world immediately following the Absolute, six of the next one, twelve of the next,twenty-four of the one after, and three of its own (3 plus 6 plus 12 plus 24 plus 3), forty-eight in all. Worlds created within worlds 48
will be governed by ninety-six forces (3 plus 6 plus 12 plus 24 plus 48 plus 3). The worlds of the next order, if there are any, will be governed by 192 forces, and so on.
"If we take one of the many worlds created in the Absolute, that is, world 3, it will be the world representing the total number of starry worlds similar to our Milky Way. If we take world 6, it will be one of the worlds created within this world, namely the accumulation of stars which we call the Milky Way. World 12 will be one of the suns that compose the Milky Way, our sun. World 24 will be the planetary world, that is to say, all the planets of the solar system. World 48 will be the earth. World 96 will be the moon. If the moon had a satellite it would be world 192, and so on.
"The chain of worlds, the links of which are the Absolute, all worlds, all suns, our sun, the planets, the earth, and the moon, forms the 'ray of creation' in which we find ourselves. The ray of creation is for us the 'world' in the widest sense of the term. Of course, the ray of creation does not include the 'world' in the full sense of the term, since the Absolute gives birth to a number, perhaps to an infinite number, of different worlds, each of which begins a new and separate ray of creation. Furthermore, each of these worlds contains a number of worlds representing a further breaking up of the ray and again of these worlds we select only one—our Milky Way; the Milky Way consists of a number of suns, but of this number we select one sun which is nearest to us, upon which we immediately depend, and in which we live and move and have our being. Each of the other suns means a new breaking up of the ray, but we cannot study these rays in the same way as our ray, that is, the ray in which we are situated. Further, within the solar system the planetary world is nearer to us than the sun itself, and within the planetary world the nearest of all to us is the earth, the planet on which we live. We have no need to study other planets in the same way as we study the earth, it is sufficient for us to take them all together, that is to say, on a considerably smaller scale than we take the earth.
"The number of forces in each world, 1, 3, 6, 12, and so on, indicates the number of laws to which the given world is subject. "The fewer laws there are in a given world, the nearer it is to the will of the Absolute; the more laws there are in a given world, the greater the mechanicalness, the further it is from the will of the Absolute. We live in a world subject to forty-eight orders of laws, that is to say, very far from the will of the Absolute and in a very remote and dark comer of the universe.]
What we can learn from this piece is that the fewer laws there are, the nearer it is to the will of the Absolute. Since our world is subject to 48 orders of laws it kinda means that our 'mechanicalness' is quite high.
Beelzebub:
"owing to all these reasons,on certain planets, among these Tritacosmoses, the possibility of mechanical movement on the surface of those planets was obtained. "This mechanical movement was specially helped by the fact that the need of food of this, as well as of all other cosmoses, was not continuous but periodic. "When our Endlessness observed this unforeseen phenomenon, the idea first arose in Him for the governance of the enlarged Universe, to create for Himself from these Tritacosomoses, a certain help......"
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"The process of the growth and the warming of the moon is connected with life and death on the earth. Everything living sets free at its death a certain amount of the energy that has 'animated' it; this energy, or the 'souls' of everything living—plants, animals, people—is attracted to the moon as though by a huge electromagnet, and brings to it the warmth and the life upon which its growth depends, that is, the growth of the ray of creation. In the economy of the universe nothing is lost, and a certain energy having finished its work on one plane goes to another. [p.98]Dus:
- De energie die vrijgemaakt wordt, door laten we even zeggen de micro- en tritacosmoses, wordt aangetrokken door de maan. En dit betekent dus dat er sprake is van een soort 'voeding'. Voeding van andere substanties.
- "In de huishouding van het heelal gaat niets verloren en als een bepaalde energie haar werk op het ene plan verricht heeft, gaat zij over naar een ander plan."
"The souls that go to the moon, possessing perhaps even a certain amount of consciousness and memory, find themselves there under ninety-six laws, in the conditions of mineral life, or to put it differently, in conditions from which there is no escape apart from a general evolution in immeasurably long planetary cycles. The moon is 'at the extremity,' at the end of the world; it is the 'outer darkness' of the Christian doctrine 'where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
"The influence of the moon upon everything living manifests itself in all that happens on the earth. The moon is the chief, or rather, the nearest, the immediate, motive force of all that takes place in organic life on the earth. All movements, actions, and manifestations of people, animals, and plants depend upon the moon and are controlled by the moon. The sensitive film of organic life which covers the earthly globe is entirely dependent upon the influence of the huge electromagnet that is sucking out its vitality. Man, like every other living being, cannot, in the ordinary conditions of life, tear himself free from the moon. All his movements and consequently all his actions are controlled by the moon. If he kills another man, the moon does it; if he sacrifices himself for others, the moon does that also. All evil deeds, all crimes, all self-sacrificing actions, all heroic exploits, as well as all the actions of ordinary everyday life, are controlled by the moon. [p.98]
- "Alle bewegingen, alle handelingen en alle uitingen van mensen, dieren en planten zijn afhankelijk van de maan en worden door haar beheerst."
"The liberation which comes with the growth of mental powers and faculties is liberation from the moon. The mechanical part of our life depends upon the moon, is subject to the moon. If we develop in our selves consciousness and will, and subject our mechanical life and all our mechanical manifestations to them, we shall escape from the power of the moon. [p.99]
- "Als wij in onszelf bewustzijn en wil ontwikkelen en daaraan ons mechanische leven en al onze mechanische uitingen onderwerpen, zullen wij aan de macht van de maan ontkomen."
"The next idea which it is necessary to master is the materiality of the universe which is taken in the form of the ray of creation. Everything in this universe can be weighed and measured. The Absolute is as material, as weighable and measurable, as the moon, or as man. If the Absolute is Cod it means that God can be weighed and measured, resolved into component elements, 'calculated,' and expressed in the form of a definite formula. [p.99]
- "Alles in dit heelal kan worden gewogen en gemeten."
"But the concept 'materiality' is as relative as everything else. It we recall how the concept 'man' and all that refers to him—good, evil, truth, falsehood, and so on—is divided into different categories ('man number one,' 'man number two,' and so on, it will be easy for us to understand that the concept 'world,' and everything that refers to the world, is also divided into different categories. The ray of creation establishes seven planes in the world, seven worlds one within another. Everything that refers to the world is also divided into seven categories, one category within another. The materiality of the Absolute is a materiality of an order different from that of 'all worlds.' The materiality of 'all worlds' is of an order different from the materiality of 'all suns.' The materiality of 'all suns' is of an order different from the materiality of our sun. The materiality of our sun is of an order different from the materiality of 'all planets.' The materiality of 'all planets' is of an order different from the materiality of the earth, and the materiality of the earth is of an order different from the materiality of the moon. This idea is at first difficult to grasp. People are accustomed to think that matter is everywhere the same. The whole of physics, of astrophysics, of chemistry, such methods as spectroanalysis, and so on, are based upon this assumption. And it is true that matter is the same, but materiality is different. And different degrees of materiality depend directly upon the qualities and properties of the energy manifested at a given point.
"Matter or substance necessarily presupposes the existence of force or energy. This does not mean that a dualistic conception of the world is necessary. The concepts of matter and force are as relative as everything else. In the Absolute, where all is one, matter and force are also one. But in this connection matter and force are not taken as real principles of the world in itself, but as properties or characteristics of the phenomenal world observed by us. To begin the study of the universe it is sufficient to have an elementary idea of matter and energy, such as we get by immediate observation through our organs of sense. The 'constant' is taken as material, as matter, and 'changes' in the state of the 'constant,' or of matter, are called manifestations of force or energy. All these changes can be regarded as the result of vibrations or undulatory motions which begin in the center, that is, in the Absolute, and go in all directions, crossing one another, colliding, and merging together, until they stop altogether at the end of the ray of creation. [p.99 - 100]
- "...Dat het begrip 'wereld' en alles wat op de wereld betrekking heeft eveneens in verschillende categorieën is onderverdeeld. De scheppingsstraal schept zeven niveaus in de wereld, zeven in elkaar besloten werelden."
- "De materialiteit van Het Absolute is van een andere orde dan de materialiteit van 'alle werelden'."
- "De materialiteit van 'alle werelden' is van een andere orde dan die van 'alle zonnen'.
- "De materialiteit van 'alle zonnen' is van een andere orde dan die van onze zon."
- "De materialiteit van onze zon is van een andere orde dan die van 'alle planeten'."
- "De materialiteit van 'alle planeten'' is van een andere orde dan die van de aarde."
- "De materialiteit van de aarde is van een andere orde dan die van de maan."
- "Materie is altijd hetzelfde, maar materialiteit is verschillend."
- "En de verschillende graden van materialiteit zijn rechtstreeks afhankelijk van de hoedanigheid en de eigenschappen van de energie die zich in een gegeven punt openbaart."
- "Materie of substantie veronderstelt noodzakelijkerwijs het bestaan van kracht of energie. Dit impliceert echter niet de noodzakelijkheid van een dualistische wereldopvatting. De begrippen materie en kracht zijn even betrekkelijk als al het andere. In het Absolute, waarin alles één is, zijn materie en kracht ook één. Maar wij beschouwen materie en kracht in dit verband niet als werkelijke beginselen van de wereld als zodanig maar als eigenschappen of kenmerken van de door ons waargenomen wereld der verschijnselen. Om met de studie van het heelal te beginnen, is het voldeonde een elementair begrip van materie en energie te hebben zoals wij dit verkrijgen door de onmiddelilijke waarneming met behulp van onze zintuigen. Het 'constante' beschouwen wij als materieel, als materie, en 'veranderingen' in de toestand van het 'constante', of van de materie, worden uitingen van kracht of energie genoemd. Al deze veranderingen kunnen worden beschouwd als het resultaat van trillingen of golfbewegingen die uitgaan van het middelpunt, dat wil zeggen van het Absolute, en die zich in alle richtingen verspreiden, elkaar kruisen, botsen en samenvloeien, todat zij aan het einde van de scheppingsstraal geheel tot stilstand komen."
> 'Veranderingen' in de toestand van het 'constante' (of van de materie) = uitingen van kracht of energie
Trillingen of golfbewegingen die uitgaan van het middelpunt (het Absolute) > verspreiden zich in alle richtingen > kruisen elkaar, botsen en samenvloeien >
totdat zij aan het einde van scheppingsstraal geheel tot stilstand komt > resultaat kan : ('veranderingen' in de toestand van het 'constante' of van de materie)
"From this point of view, then, the world consists of vibrations and matter, or of matter in a state of vibration, of vibrating matter. The rate of vibration is in inverse ratio to the density of matter.
"In the Absolute vibrations are the most rapid and matter is the least dense. In the next world vibrations are slower and matter denser; and further on matter is still more dense and vibrations correspondingly slower. [p.100]
- "Uit dit gezichtspunt beschouwd bestaat de wereld dus uit
- trillingen
- materie
- of
- materie in een toestand van trilling, trillende materie.''
- ''De snelheid is omgekeerd evenredig aan de dichtheid der materie.''
- "In het Absolute zijn de trillingen het snelst en is de materie het minst dicht. In de volgende wereld zijn de trillingen langzamer en is de materie dichter; en nog verder is de materie nog dichter en zijn de trillingen evenredig langzamer."
" 'Matter' may be regarded as consisting of 'atoms.' Atoms in this connection are taken also as the result of the final division of matter. In every order of matter they are simply certain small particles of the given matter which are indivisible only on the given plane. The atoms of the Absolute alone are really indivisible, the atom of the next plane, that is, of world 3, consists of three atoms of the Absolute or, in other words, it is three times bigger and three times heavier, and its movements are correspondingly slower. The atom of world 6 consists of six atoms of the Absolute merged together, as it were, and forming one atom. Its movements are correspondingly slower. The atom of the next world consists of twelve primordial particles, and of the next worlds, of twenty-four, forty-eight, and ninety-six. The atom of world 96 is of an enormous size compared with the atom of world 1; its movements are correspondingly slower, and the matter which is made up of such atoms is correspondingly denser. [p.100]
- '' 'Materie' kan worden beschouwd te bestaan uit 'atomen'. Atomen worden in dit verband opgevat als het resultaat van een tot het einde toe doorgevoerde deling van de materie. In iedere orde van materie zijn het eenvoudig uiterst kleine deeltjes van de gegeven materie die alleen op het gegeven plan ondeelbaar zijn. Alleen de atomen van Absolute zijn werkelijk ondeelbaar. Het atoom van het volgende plan, dat wil zeggen, wereld 3, bestaat uit drie atomen van het Absolute; met andere woorden, het is drie keer zo groot en zo zwaar en zijn bewegingen zijn dienovereenkomstig langzamer. Het atoom van wereld 6 bestaat uit zes atomen van het Absolute die als het ware zijn samengesmolten en één atoom vormen. Zijn bewegingen zijn naar evenredigheid trager. Het atoom van de volgende wereld bestaat uit twaalf oorspronkelijke deeltjes en die van de daaropvolgende werelden uit vierentwintig, achtenveertig en zesennegentig deeltjes. Het atoom van wereld 96 is van enorme afmetingen vergeleken met het atoom van wereld 1; zijn bewegingen zijn dienovereenkomstig langzamer en de stof die uit dergelijke atomen is opgebouwd is naar evenredigheid dichter (zie fig)."
"The seven worlds of the ray of creation represent seven orders of materiality. The materiality of the moon is different from the materiality of the earth; the materiality of the earth is different from the materiality of the planetary world; the materiality of the planetary world is different from the materiality of the sun, and so on. [p.101]- "De zeven werelden van de scheppingsstraal stellen zeven orden van materialiteit voor. De materialieit van de maan is verschillend van de materialiteit van de planetaire wereld; de materialiteit van de planetaire wereld is verschillend van die van de zon, enz."
"Thus instead of one concept of matter we have seven kinds of matter, but our ordinary conception of materiality only with difficulty embraces the materiality of worlds 96 and 48. The matter of world 24 is much too rarefied to be regarded as matter from the scientific point of view of our physics and chemistry; such matter is practically hypothetical. The still finer matter of world 12 has, for ordinary investigation, no characteristics of materiality at all. All these matters belonging to the various orders of the universe are not separated into layers but are intermixed, or, rather, they interpenetrate one another. We can get an idea of similar interpenetration of matters of different densities from the penetration of one matter by another matter of different densities known to us. A piece of wood may be saturated with water, water may in its turn be filled with gas. Exactly the same relation between different kinds of matter may be observed in the whole of the universe: the finer matters permeate the coarser ones. [p.101]
- ''Zo hebben wij in plaats van één begrip 'materie' zeven soorten materie, maar onze gebruikelijke opvatting van materialiteit omvat alleen maar, en dan nog met moeite, de materialiteit van werelden 96 en 48. De materie van wereld 24 is veel te ijl om volgens het wetenschappelijke standpunt van onze natuur- en scheikunde nog als materie te worden beschouwd; een dergelijke materie is praktisch hypothetisch. De nog fijnere materie van wereld 12 mist, voor het gewone onderzoek, alle kenmerken van materialiteit. Al deze soorten materie die tot de verschillende orden van het heelal behoren, zijn niet in lagen gescheiden maar zijn vermengd, of liever: zij doordringen elkaar. Wij kunnen ons een voorstelling van een soortgelijke onderlinge doordringing van materies van verschillende dichtheid vormen door de analogie met de penetratie van een ons bekende materie door een van van andere dichtheid. Een stuk hout kan doordrenkt zijn met water en het water kan op zijn beurt verzadigd zijn met gas. Precies dezelfde betrekking tussen verschillende soorten materie kan in het hele universum worden waargenomen: de fijnere materies doordringen de grovere.''
"Matter that possesses characteristics of materiality comprehensible to us is divided for us into several states according to its density: solid, liquid, gaseous; further gradations of matter are: radiant energy, that is, electricity, light, magnetism; and so on. But on every plane, that is to say, in every order of materiality, similar relations and divisions of the various states of a given matter may be found; but, as has been already said, matter of a higher plane is not material at all for the lower planes. [p.101 - 102]
- ''De materie die de voor ons begrijpelijke kenmerken van materialiteit bezit, wordt naar gelang van de dichtheid onderverdeeld in verschillende toestanden:
- vast,
- vloeibaar en
- gasvormig;
- verdere gradaties van de materie zijn:
- stralingsenergie, dat wil zeggen elektriciteit, licht, magnetisme, enzovoorts.
- Soortgelijke verhoudingen en onderverdelingen van de verschillende toestanden van een gegeven materie kunnen op ieder niveau worden gevonden, dat wil zeggen in iedere orde van materialiteit; maar, zoals reeds is gezegd, materie van een hoger niveau is in het geheel niet materieel voor de lagere niveaus.''
"All the matter of the world that surrounds us, the food that we eat, the water that we drink, the air that we breathe, the stones that our houses are built of, our own bodies—everything is permeated by all the matters that exist in the universe. There is no need to study or investigate the sun in order to discover the matter of the solar world: this matter exists in ourselves and is the result of the division of our atoms. In the same way we have in us the matter of all other worlds. Man is, in the full sense of the term, a 'miniature universe'; in him are all the matters of which the universe consists; the same forces, the same laws that govern the life of the universe, operate in him; therefore in studying man we can study the whole world, just as in studying the world we can study man. [p.102]
- ''Alle materie van de ons omringende wereld, het voedsel dat wij eten, het water dat wij drinken, de lucht die wij ademen, de stenen waarvan onze huizen zijn gebouwd, ons eigen lichaam - alles wordt doordrongen van alle materies die in het heelal bestaan. Het is niet nodig de zon te bestuderen of te onderzoeken om de materie van de zonnewereld te ontdekken: deze materie bestaat in onszelf, zij is het resultaat van de deling onzer atomen. Op dezelfde wijze hebben wij de materie van alle andere werelden in ons. De mens is, in de volle betekenis van het woord, een 'heelal in miniatuur'; in hem zijn alle materies aanwezig waaruit het heelal bestaat; dezelfde krachten, dezelfde wetten die het leven van het heelal beheersen, zijn in hem werkzaam; daarom kunnen wij door de mens te bestuderen de hele wereld bestuderen, precies zoals wij door de wereld te bestuderen de mens kunnen bestuderen.''
A: The entire sum total of all existence exists within each of you, and vice versa.
"But a complete parallel between man and the world can only be drawn if we take 'man' in the full sense of the word, that is, a man whose inherent powers are developed. An undeveloped man, a man who has not completed the course of his evolution, cannot be taken as a complete picture or plan of the universe—he is an unfinished world. [p.102]
- "Een volledige parallel tussen de mens en de wereld kan echter alleen worden getrokken wanneer wij de 'mens' nemen in de volle zin van het woord, dat wil zeggen een mens wiens inherente vermogens ten volle zijn ontwikkeld. Een niet-ontwikkelde mens, een mens die zijn evolutie niet heeft voleindigd, kan niet worden beschouwd als een volledig beeld of model van het heelal - hij is een onvoltooide wereld."
"As has been said already, the study of oneself must go side by side with the study of the fundamental laws of the universe. The laws are the same everywhere and on all planes. But the very same laws manifesting themselves in different worlds, that is, under different conditions, produce different phenomena. The study of the relation of laws to the planes upon which they are manifested brings us to the study of relativity.
"The idea of relativity occupies a very important place in this teaching, and, later on, we shall return to it. But before anything else it is necessary to understand the relativity of each thing and of each manifestation according to the place it occupies in the cosmic order.
"We are on the earth and we depend entirely upon the laws that are operating on the earth. The earth is a very bad place from the cosmic point of view—it is like the most remote part of northern Siberia, very far from everywhere, it is cold, life is very hard. Everything that in another place either comes by itself or is easily obtained, is here acquired only by hard labor; everything must be fought for both in life and in the work. In life it still happens sometimes that a man gets a legacy and afterwards lives without doing anything. But such a thing does not happen in the work. All are equal and all are equally beggars. [p.102 - 103]
- "De wetten zijn overal en op alle niveaus dezelfde.'' (fundamentele wetten van het heelal)
- (Deze onveranderlijke wetten brengen verschillende verschijnselen voort al naar gelang zij in verschillende omstandigheden, werkzaam zijn.)
- Studie der relativiteit : de studie van het verband tussen de wetten en de niveaus waarop zij werkzaam zijn.
- Vóór alles dienen wij de relativiteit van ieder ding en ieder verschijnsel dat zich openbaar te begrijpen volgens de plaats die het in de kosmische orde inneemt.
,,Wij bevinden ons op de aarde en zijn volkomen afhankelijk van de wetten die op aarde werkzaam zijn. Kosmisch gezien is de aarde een zeer slechte plaats - zo iets als het meest afgelegen deel van Noord-Siberië dat overal ver vandaan ligt, het is er koud en het leven is er erg hard. Alles wat elders vanzelf tot stand komt of gemakkelijk wordt verkregen, kan hier alleen maar door moeizame arbeid worden verworven; voor alles moet worden gevochten, zowel in het leven als in het werk. In het leven komt het nog wel eens voor dat iemand een erfenis krijgt en dan kan leven zonder iets uit te voeren. Maar zo iets gebeurt niet in het werk. Daarin zijn allen gelijk en allen zijn gelijkelijk bedelaars.
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"Returning to the law of three, one must learn to find the manifestations of this law in everything we do and in everything we study. The application of this law in any sphere at once reveals much that is new, much that we did not see before. Take chemistry, for instance. Ordinary science does not know of the law of three and it studies matter without taking into consideration its cosmic properties. But besides ordinary chemistry there exists another, a special chemistry, or alchemy if you like, which studies matter taking into consideration its cosmic properties. As has been said before, the cosmic properties of each substance are determined first by its place, and secondly by the force which is acting through it at the given moment. Even in the same place the nature of a given substance undergoes a great change dependent upon the force which is being manifested through it. Each substance can be the conductor of any one of the three forces and, in accordance with this, it can be active, passive, or neutralizing. And it can be neither the first, nor the second, nor the third, if no force is manifesting through it at the given moment or if it is taken without relation to the manifestation of forces. In this way every substance appears, as it were, in four different aspects or states. In this connection it must be noted that when we speak of matter we do not speak of chemical elements. The special chemistry of which I speak looks upon every substance having a separate function, even the most complex, as an element. In this way only is it possible to study the cosmic properties of matter, because all complex compounds have their own cosmic purpose and significance. From this point of view an atom of a given substance isthe smallest amount of the given substance which retains all its chemical, physical, and cosmic properties. Consequently the size of the 'atom' of different substances is not the same. And in some cases an 'atom' may be a particle even visible to the naked eye. [p.103]Ik zal dit stukje geheel overschrijven in het Nederlands, gekopieerd uit de Op zoek naar het wonderbaarlijke /nederlandse versie/ (opsommingstekens door mij) :
,,Wij keren terug tot de wet van drie. Men moet leren de manifestaties van deze wet te onderkennen in alles wat wij doen en in alles wat wij bestuderen. De toepassing van deze wet, in welke sfeer ook, zal ons onmiddellijk veel nieuws doen zien, vele dingen die wij tevoren niet vermoed hadden. Neem bijvoorbeeld de chemie. De gewone wetenschap kent de wet van drie niet en zij bestudeert de materie zonder haar kosmische eigenschappen in aanmerking te nemen. Maar behalve de gewone chemie bestaat er een andere, een speciale chemie - of alchimie zo u wilt - die de materie wel met inachtneming van haar kosmische eigenschappen bestudeert. Zoals reeds gezegd, worden de kosmische eigenschappen van iedere substantie bepaald, ten eerste
- door haar plaats
- ten tweede door de kracht die op het gegeven ogenblik er doorheen werkzaam is
- actief
- passief
- of neutraliserend
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>> Nu ga ik paar 'artikels' uit de glossary erbij halen en bekijken.
Eerst het artikel "STO and STS" (dikgedrukt etc door mij)
The concepts of service to others (STO) and service to self (STS) are the central cornerstone of the teaching of first Ra and then Cassiopaea. We find these same fundamentals expressed in different terms throughout esoteric culture. The fundamental nature and extreme breadth of these concepts makes them difficult to define since these are in one way or another reflected in all things.Ra said that for the human level, speaking of STO vs. STS was the most appropriate terminology because humans tend to think in terms of action and its ethical basis. The concepts of absorption for STS and radiance for STO could also be used as a metaphor. At any rate, the principles are beyond words.
Cosmologically, the Cassiopaeans speak of 'dual emergence' from the One. This is the source of all which is and this is where the first duality comes into being. The principle of free will, at its various levels of manifestation, mediates between these. This can be compared to Gurdjieff's first triad, the Sun Absolute dividing in three at the start of the ray of creation. In the most abstract sense, the existence of two dissimilar forces or tendencies plus free will is the simplest basis for an open universe. All the forms of creation follow from these, through a series of increasingly restricted or mechanical levels of being. These levels correspond to the densities of Ra and Cassiopaea or the cosmoses of the 4th Way.
? > Dus twee 'niet dezelfde' krachten PLUS vrije wil? Dus negatief en positief PLUS vrije wil? Is vrije wil dan de neutraliserende kracht?? Of Fagolgiria? Of De Wil van God /our Endlessness/?
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Gurdjieff discusses STO and STS in Beelzebub's Tales as follows:'. "If the notions recorded on this Boolmarshano were put into ordinary language, they could be stated in the following words: "'Evidently we men, also like all the existing units of the World, are formed and always consist of the same three independent forces, by means of which the process of reciprocal maintenance of everything existing proceeds; namely, of the following three independent World forces: "'The first of these forces constantly arises from the causes which proceed in the Prime Source itself and from the pressure of the newly arisen, and issuing from it by momentum flows out of that Prime Source. "'The second World force is what this first force be- comes, when, after having spent the momentum which it has received, it strives to reblend with the source of its arising, according to the fundamental World law called "The effects of a cause must always re-enter the cause." "'Both of these forces in the general process of reciprocally maintaining forces are entirely independent, and in their manifestations have always and in everything their own properties and particularities. "'The first of these two fundamental forces, namely, that one which for compelling reasons always manifests outside the source of its arising, must constantly involve; and the second one, on the contrary, striving to blend with the cause of its arising, must always and in everything evolve. "'Owing to the fact that the first of the mentioned three independent forces arises from vivifying actions proceeding in the very foundation of the cause of everything existing and thus receives in its presence the germ of the possibility of manifesting vivifyingness, it may be considered as "Good," that is, as a factor for the actualizing of the backward-flowing effects which in relation to this first force can and must be considered as "Evil." "I Moreover, the first of these forces, which is manifested from inevitable and compelling causes arising in the Prime Source itself, can from this point of view be considered as passive. And the second backward-flowing force, because it must constantly resist in order to have the possibility of penetrating backward or at least the possibility of withstanding the opposite-flowing first passive force which has received its momentum from the Prime Source causes, must be regarded as active. "And as for the third independent World force, this force is nothing else but only the result of the clash everywhere and in everything of these two fundamental descending and ascending independent forces. "'Although this third independent force is only the result of both first fundamental forces, it is nevertheless the spiritualizing and reconciling source of every World formation. "'And it is the spiritualizing source of every World formation because it arises and must exist in them as a presence all the time while the given results exist which arise from various unusual mutual resistances occurring between the said two fundamental forces flowing in entirely opposite directions.' "And so, my boy, it was in this sense and in this meaning that the words 'Good' and 'Evil' were first used by this unfortunate Makary Kronbernkzion.' [End quote]
- The first of these forces constantly arises from the causes which proceed in the Prime Source itself and from the pressure of the newly arisen, and issuing from it by momentum flows out of that Prime Source.
- always manifests outside the source of its arising, must constantly involve
- ''Good''
- Passive
- The second World force is what this first force be- comes, when, after having spent the momentum which it has received, it strives to reblend with the source of its arising, according to the fundamental World law called "The effects of a cause must always re-enter the cause.''
- striving to blend with the cause of its arising, must always and in everything evolve
- ''Bad''
- Active
- And as for the third independent World force, this force is nothing else but only the result of the clash everywhere and in everything of these two fundamental descending and ascending independent forces.
- And it is the spiritualizing source of every World formation because it arises and must exist in them as a presence all the time while the given results exist which arise from various unusual mutual resistances occurring between the said two fundamental forces flowing in entirely opposite directions.
Nu het artikel ''Karma and the Principle Of Equilibrium'' (dikgedrukt etc door mij)Hier moet dus duidelijk zijn, dat als onze Eindeloosheid iets wilde creëren verminderde het aantal 'potentialities' en het creëren van iets, gebeurt in een bepaald soort 'tijd', waardoor de Sun-Absolute steeds kleiner werd. Het artikel gaat verder, maar dan met een stuk uit Mouravieff's boek Gnosis I:The following is but one simplistic interpretation of Gurdjieffs cosmology. This brief description, that is written below, is given so it can be used as a frame of reference to better understand the 'Principle Of Equilibrium' that is described by Boris Mouravieff. Excerpts from Mouravieff's book on the 'Principle Of Equilibrium' is also given below.
In the Gurdjieff cosmology, before the creation of the universe, there existed a primordial state of things that he called 'The Absolute' or 'Endlessness' where All was One and One was All. The Absolute was completely independent. There was only one Law in the Absolute, that is, the Absolute was a law unto itself. It depended on nothing external to itself and was completely self sufficient.
However, in order for The Absolute to create anything it needed a residence or "sole point of concentration" to focus its creative activity.
The Absolute then 'begot' a "local residence" that Gurdjieff called the 'Sun Absolute' (The term "begot" is used here since this was all before the creation of the Universe).
The Sun Absolute was held together and maintained by independent forces that consisted of two interlocking laws. In the Sun Absolute these two laws, 'The Law Of Three' and 'The Law Of Seven', were perfectly balanced with respect to each other. This perfect blending of these two primordial Laws is what kept the Sun Absolute stable without any need for influences from outside to sustain it
However, nothing ever could change in the Sun Absolute since it was perfectly balanced and static. Nothing could happen there since the Sun Absolute was in a pure potential state of 'Eternal Unchanging.'In order for anything to happen within the Sun Absolute, that is, in order for The Absolute to create anything, then the infinitude of potentialities that comprised it would have to give way to the finitude of actualization. This dynamism is what Gurdjieff called the "merciless Heropass," that is, this is what he called the FLOW OF TIME. The diminution of potentialities that would result whenever anything 'happened' or was 'actualized' within the Sun Absolute, threatened the infinite reservoir of potentialities existing within it, thereby threatening to diminish the volume of the Sun Absolute itself.
The Sun Absolute was now threatened by the "merciless" flow of Time.
In order for the Sun Absolute to maintain its infinite state of potential so as not to suffer a progressive diminuation of potentialities due to their actualization, the Absolute, out of necessity, adjusted or modified the two fundamental laws that comprised the Sun Absolute, so that any created thing would send a counter flow of energy back into the Sun Absolute and maintain its existing (potential) state over time.
It was from this changing of these two fundamental laws, where they no longer operated independently but were now dependent on outside forces, that the original independent maintenance of the Sun Absolute became altered into a mutual exchange of force with all created materials.
The result of changing the function of these two fundamental laws directed their actions from within the Sun Absolute outwards into the space of the universe. The redirection of these two fundamental laws outwardly, by the Will of the Absolute, is what Gurdjieff calls the "Theomertmalogos or Word-God," which is, according to Gurdjieff, an "'Emanation-of-the-Sun-Absolute'" which is an 'utterance' or vibration which organizes the undifferentiated Etherkrilno into repeating yet varying patterns of matter/form. This sound vibration, like light and all oscillations, is an energy vector that continuously moves from positive to negative through 'zero', the point of equilibriation between those two directions.
Once these two fundamental laws were changed, then the three forces that comprised the Law Of Three, which were originally united within the Absolute, were now SEPARATED from each other in the phenomenal universe, since they are no longer part of one Whole and can now only be brought together by the PARTS of the whole, due to the division and differentiation that arises from the diversity of phenomenon that comprise the existing universe.
The separation of these three forces, which caused creation, would now spark an inherent striving for these three forces to REBLEND and be reconciled back into the primordial perfection and unification of the Absolute.
Thus, for the ABSOLUTE the three forces are united. But for the UNIVERSE the three forces are separated, and always striving for an equilibration that mirrors their unity within the Absolute.
The below excerpts are taken from Mouravieff's book Gnosis Vol.I. pp. 126-134 that relate to The Principle Of Equilibrium and the Law Of Karma:
To summarize, we can say that Life is the effect of a vibratory play at every step of the Universe, a play which in every case takes the form of a perturbation (storing) of equilibrium, followed by its restoration.These perturbations are possible because all that exists in the Universe, though equilibrated, is in unstable equilibrium.
The principle of Equilibrium finds its practical application in compensating for perturbations. Yet rare are the cases where this compensatory action succeeds in reestablishing exactly the ante-actum situation. In general this would not be desirable. As a result of the principle of Imperfection, that exists is in a state of movement. Especially in organic life, the vibratory play - perturbation - compensation - often takes the form of an open cycle -a spiral.
Here we can again constate the perfect logic of the system. know, in fact, that a translational movement - such as evolution - always difficult. The spiral slows the rate of progress, yet makes it easier. In case of a fall, it brakes the regression.
Time, Space and Equilibrium, the three preliminary conditions of the, Manifestation and Creation of the Universe, have given birth to the forces in the created Universe: active, passive and neutralizing, as already mentioned.
The principle of Equilibrium takes dynamic form in the their category, as a reactive force with the task of compensating perturbations to restore the balance. Its manifestation always has the character of unilateral (eenzijdig) reaction. Applied to the whole of the Universe, the principle of Equilibrium acts mechanically and is initiated automatically. As a result, all action, in every place, in every cosmos, is necessarily counterbalanced.
The above considerations allow us to understand and grasp the meaning of certain phenomena which remain unexplained by positive science. To begin with, the great problem of death. As life is born from perturbation, death is necessary because of the principle of Equilibrium. In every case without exception, the perturbation has to be compensated, an equilibrium reestablished. It is by death that compensation is made. Birth on all planes, is the work of a revolutionary and perturbing act which Love. Love itself is born before Creation, with the appearance - in consciousness of the Absolute-of the idea of You, which necessarily arise from that of 'I'. This was the first perturbation of the stable pre-eternal equilibrium. That is why we have good reason, even if only instinctively, contrast Death with Love, and not with Life. It is with equally good reason - against all evidence of the thinking mind - that the human heart feels that
Love is the superior force which is able to overcome Death.
To overcome Death, that is the watchword of esoteric science. But let us early come to a common understanding of the true sense of this expression.As they propagate themselves, the three forces act throughout the universe. They manifest in the following manner in the System of Cosmoses and the Rays of Creation: Love appears as the active perturbing force, death as the passive stabilizing force, and life as the neutralizing force, which measures out existence between limits defined by the first two. From the preceding, death is an indispensable (onmisbaar) condition of existence - and therefore of life - the fruit of which, in a later triad, is posterity (nakomelingschap). The question is whether the fight against death to win eternal life - humanity's highest hope, as preached by all religions - can in reality be undertaken with reasonable chances of success. The question is complex. To resolve it, one must examine it from many points of view. Religions treat this on the plane of belief, and make an article of faith out of it. But now that we are on the threshold of a new Era, that of the Cycle of the Holy Spirit, such a position is no longer entirely satisfying to enlightened minds. They now want to grasp and understand something that yesterday was still considered as an article of Belief.
- [active perturbing force] = [Love]
- [passive stablizing force] = [Death]
- [neutralizing force] = [Life]
It is certainly easier to ask true believers to trust on this question, rather than attempt to explain something so difficult to explain. But esoteric science proposes an answer to the question.
The face of the world changes. The Cycle of the Son, as happened before with that of the Father, is coming to its end. With Christ, the Law received long ago by Moses, came to an end and was replaced by the rule of Faith, Hope and Love. At the present time, with the wars and revolutions of this century, and with the extraordinary progress of positive science, we have entered a period of transition whose purpose is to give us entry to the Cycle of the Holy Spirit. During this period, Faith will be progressively replaced by Knowledge, and Hope will end in Accomplishment. This will be the final triumph of Love; 'For Love will never perish, - even though prophecies will end, tongues will be no more, and knowledge will be abolished."
Doet me denken aan: God the Father (plus) ,' 'God the Son' (minus) and 'God the Holy Ghost' (neutraal)
In the Tradition, we mean by victory over Death the victory of our perfected Personalities over Death. This is the meaning of Salvatio object of prayers and aim of the religious practices of Christianity. We have already quoted the words of St Paul:'Behold, I tell you a mystery: we shall all die but we shall all be changed.'
The underlying meaning of the word 'changed' in this sentence lies the fact that all exterior men, as well as those who have reached the levels 5 or 7, will sooner or later be called to leave their physical bodies.
The difference is that the latter will do it as one abandons an old suit to that of another, while the death of the physical body for men 1, 2 or 3 will result the decomposition of their foetal - Personalties. Death is an astral abortion Salvation comes with the second Birth, when the entirely developed at born Personality is indissolubly joined to the real 'I' to form Individuality. Once born, this Individuality no longer depends on the physical body, in the same way that the child who has been born does not die even if his birth has been at the cost of his mother's life. It is this to which the apostle alluded, saying, we shall not all die.[...] We have established that death is one of the manifestations of principle of Equilibrium, which automatically reacts to the perturbing action of carnal (vleselijk) love in the created world. The latter, although perfect, then gives birth to life. Human love is imperfect because it is instinctive and impulsive. As long as man automatically follows his impulses, his love will serve only the cosmic goals of the ensemble. pleasure he always gains from this is as much an equilibrating element as a reward. As it is, it will not serve his esoteric evolution in any way. Love is the surest and most powerful means of achieving this evolution, This is because Love is the one objective element in our lives. That objectivity remains true in all Love's many aspects, and through all variety of its manifestations.
[...] (klik hier als je dit stuk ook wilt lezen)
Once karmic action is launched automatically and acts mechanically, compensates for each perturbation on its own plane. Compensation made for each account individually, as in a ledger, and not between totals of good and bad results.**********************************************************************************
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>> Nu kopieer ik het relevante stuk (eigenlijk geheel) van de quote waarmee ik begonnen ben, maar dan in het Nederlands, zoals het geschreven is in de Nederlandse versie van het boek ''Beëlzebubs verhalen aan zijn kleinzoon".
blz 687 van engelse versie
blz 542 van nlse versie
Maaaaaaar voordat ik dat doe, wil ik toch even eerst naar deze thread kijken, klik hier:
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My hypothesis here is more risky, it is just a working hypothesis.
Our Universe is a complex system. The degree of its complexity is rather high. In this complex system, in some yet to be understood way, "programs" are operating. There is no reason for assuming that these programs are free of bugs. Thus it is not excluded that the Universe has also "debugging mechanisms". Consciousness, intelligence, life itself, may also have - among others - such functions. Therefore the role of intelligence may be this: to discover these bugs in the programs that run in the Universe, and to debug the Universe.
Therefore I am going beyond the pure "self-replication" as the meaning of life (as in Dawkins "Selfish Gene"). Self-replication may be a tool, but not the goal. The goal may be different: to debug the Universe. The time needed for that may be quite long. Moreover, the positive outcome may be not guaranteed. It may well be like with the Halt Problem: there is no way to predict the outcome, what remains is to let the debugging programs run, to allow for its self-modifications.
If we admit this hypothesis, then the question about the role of the intelligence and the meaning of life takes on new colors.
One may ask: but what can we - such "small" creatures - accomplish in the grand scale of the Universe?
An interesting question. Yet we know that in complex systems small changes can lead to unexpected global "phase transitions". We can't exclude that something like this can happen. We can't exclude that admitting such a hypothesis can change completely our perspective on the problem of responsibility of the human kind - this would be just a logical conclusion from our premises
As I wrote above, this is just my working hypothesis, a hypothesis that I am using on a daily basis. It seems to me interesting, it fits all the knowledge that I have (physics, mathematics, philosophy, genetics, biology, psychology). But if I discover new data, then I will re-think my hypothesis again. After all, in order to debug the Universe, we first need to debug ourselves. And here we are coming back, again, to the question of the "truth" and "objectivity".
Dus de reden waarom alles bestaat, is misschien wel, om de ''foutjes'' van de Universe te ontdekken en die te ''debuggen''. Maar voordat je dat kan doen, 'moet' je eerst jezelf ''debuggen''.
Later:
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Here it is very important to notice well in your consciousness that in the Law of Eftologodiksis, during the process of movement from one center of gravity to another, to the final completion of the whole process, there are gaps, or as they are called 'intervals', in two places, at which intervals there was 'all', when Our Endlessness made the existing, self-supporting and independent forces for the existence of the Sun-Absolute dependent on the foreign forces from without; that is to say, He transformed the Autoegokrat into the Trogoautoegokrat. Well, then, Our Endlessness made, but only in this Law of Eftologodiksis, two gaps or intervals through which forces or substances coming from without should enter. From the time of this change, the Law of Eftologodiksis could no longer completely evolve or involve without foreign help coming through its two intervals. And this according to this property of the Law of Eftologodiksis, by means of these two intervals, it now effects the evolution and involution of substances in the beings composing the Tritacosmoses. That is to say, during the transition of substances from one centre of gravity to another, substances of the fundamental cosmic Triamonia of quite other densties, must, without fail, help in two places. And in those organic machines, such a help proceeds in the following way.[...]
As far as I understand the above "Trogoautoegokrat" is an open system, that is one where it is impossible to "predict" anything - because it is open to "external" influences. But, because of this, there is a hope. we are the "organic machines" that can do something during the "two gaps" - whenever they happen in any cycle. Or, expressing it in somewhat different terms: we, the organic machines, have a "Free Will", which we can use to "fill the gaps", and to push the Universe this way or another way. Or, still in another way: if a hacker comes to your computer and deletes or corrupts an important system file to introduce chaos, you can restore the file and add something to the system that will create even more order than it was before. But in order to be able to do this - a good knowledge of the operating system is needed. That is why "Knowledge Protects" - not only "us", but also, and more importantly, the System we are functioning in.
Whether my interpretation is correct or not - I do not know. But, knowing all what I know today, I am giving it a rather high probability of going into the right direction. In this way my idea of "debugging the universe" is a re-phrasing, in modern language, of the old idea in Belzebub.
One more comment: according to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, the entropy in a closed system is increasing, the chaos is increasing with time. That is how I read "Our Endlessness, Almighty God, once observed that the Sun-Absolute, itself, on which He existed was, owing to Time, diminishing gradually but perceptibly in volume..." The "volume" stands here, I think, for "order". But the second law of thermodynamics does not apply to an open system. On the other hand an open system is unpredictable. Which is a danger, but also a hope.
En hier kunnen we lezen (dikgedrukt door mij):
So, I think that Reality is multi-faceted and multi-leveled and we are consciously experiencing only one (or a few) of the existing levels and/or facets. The multi-leveled and multi-faceted Realit includes: many worlds, many realms, parallel and perpendicular universes, higher dimensions, higher levels of intelligence and of perception, and very likely a consciousness of which we cannot even conceive.Some of these concepts have already been integrated into theoretical physics (many worlds, parallel universes, higher dimensions), and can be studied - at least theoretically - with mathematical rigor; while those dealing with mind, consciousness, intelligence, are yet to be integrated. Once that is done, once we admit and realize that that material existence is not all that can be thought of and dealt with using mathematical rigor - new vistas, new hopes and new goals will appear on the horizon. And by doing this, WE will take charge of the evolutionary development of life. BY doing this we will choose to obey our own call from the future. By doing this we will make real what is now only virtual.
I believe that the Universe has Purpose, that it is much like a computer program of great complexity, and that "we" - the IGUS-es - have a role in its evolution. For a while our role can be described simply as "debugging units." In short, my present answer to the question "why are we here?" reads: DEBUGGING THE UNIVERSE.
Universes without life, without feedback from the "observers" have only virtual existence, their future is closed; while "our" future, as well as the future of "our universe," is in my opinion, to large extent, OPEN.
The question of existence of other forms of life is, in particular, one of these tricky questions whose answers are "open". YOU, the Reader, can choose to live in a universe with a "no" answer, but you can also choose to live in a "yes" universe.
I am not saying the choice is going to be easy, or possible at all. Every choice needs an effort. The more important the choice, the more effort it needs. Without making this effort we are simply machines, and then the choices are being made for us - either by pure chance or by others.
So, what I am saying here relates, to some extent, to some of the ideas expanded in Jung's " Flying Saucers. A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies ." Let me quote from an article by John Fraim :
' Jung concluded that "news affirming the existence of UFOs is welcome, but that skepticism seems to be undesirable. . .to believe that UFOs are real suits the opinion, whereas disbelief is to be discouraged.... There is a tendency all over the world to believe in saucers and to want them to be real, unconsciously helped along by a press that otherwise has no sympathy with the phenomenon." Jung then asked a most incisive question: "Why should it be more desirable for saucers to exist than not?"
'For Jung, the "desirability" of UFO existence relates to a psychic need and is connected with signaling the end of one era and the beginning of another. It was not a new phenomenon but, rather, one that manifested the change of archetypes that constellate around the end of one age and the beginning of another. As he wrote in the introduction to Flying Saucers: "It is not presumption that drives me, but my conscience as a psychiatrist that bids spare those few who will fulfill my duty and prepare those few which are in accord with the end of an era."
'Jung found precedence for these archetypal harbingers of change in preceding periods of history that involved the collective psyche: As we know from ancient Egyptian history, there are manifestations of psychic changes which always appear at the end of one Platonic month and at the beginning of another. Apparently they are changes in the constellations of psychic dominants, of the archetypes, or "gods" as they used to be called, which bring about, or accompany, long-lasting transformation of the collective psyche.
'The changes in archetypes seem to have a connection to major movements in astrological houses. "This transformation, " noted Jung, "started in the historical era and left its traces first in the passing of the aeon of Taurus into that of Aries, and then of Aries into Pisces, whose beginning coincides with the rise of Christianity. We are now nearing that great change which may be expected when the spring-point enters Aquarius."'
Ik begin het al een beetje te begrijpen. De woorden zweven nog een beetje in mijn hoofd.
Laat ik verder gaan met de blz van het (in het Nederlands vertaalde) boek:
(de stukjes die bepaalde dingen misschien kunnen verduidelijken, schrijf ik op)
(I'll only copy the parts that might make some things clear)
Dutch version - English version
Dit systeem van krachten was eveneens gebaseerd op de twee fundamentele heilige kosmische wetten waardoor het geheel van onze tegenwoordige Megalokosmos in stand wordt gehouden, dat wil zeggen de oorspronkelijke heilige kosmische wetten die de naam dragen van ''heilige Heptaparaparshinokh' en 'heilige Triamazikamno'.
This system was based on those two fundamental sacred cosmic laws by which the whole of our Megalocosmos is still maintained, namely, on the two primordial cosmic laws called the sacred 'Heptaparaparshinokh' and the sacred 'Triamazikamno.'
Dus Heptaparaparshinokh = Eftologodiksis
En Traimazikamno = Triamonia
Van de eerste oorspronkelijke heilige kosmische wet, de wet van de heilige Heptaparaparshinokh, geeft de objectieve kosmische wetenschap de volgende formulering:
"De stroom van krachten die steeds op regelmatige afstanden wordt onderbroken en waarvan de uiteinden zich weer verenigen''
De lijn volgens welke deze heilige kosmische wet zich uitdrukt vertoont zeven punten van afbuiging, of zoals men ook wel zegt zeven 'zwaartepunten'; en de afstand tussen twee punten van afbuiging of 'zwaartepunten' heet 'stopinder van de heilige Heptaparaparshinokh''.
Het volledige proces van deze heilige wet die op alles wat bestaat vanaf de verschijning ervan zijn werking uitoefent, omvat dus steeds zeven 'stopinders'.
"The first of these fundamental primordial sacred cosmic laws, namely the law of Heptaparaparshinokh, is formulated by cosmic Objective Science in the following words:
'The flow of forces follows a line that constantly deflects at specific intervals and unites again at its ends. '
"According to this primordial sacred cosmic law, the line of the flow of forces has seven points of deflection or, as is otherwise said, seven 'centers of gravity,' and the distance between two consecutive points of deflection, or 'centers of gravity,' is called a 'stopinder of the sacred Heptaparaparshinokh.'
"The complete process of this sacred law, acting through everything newly arising and existing, is always made up of seven stopinders.
En dit doet me denken aan:[Here it is very important to notice well in your consciousness that in the Law of Eftologodiksis, during the process of movement from one center of gravity to another, to the final completion of the whole process, there are gaps, or as they are called 'intervals', in two places, at which intervals there was 'all', when Our Endlessness made the existing, self-supporting and independent forces for the existence of the Sun-Absolute dependent on the foreign forces from without; that is to say, He transformed the Autoegokrat into the Trogoautoegokrat. Well, then, Our Endlessness made, but only in this Law of Eftologodiksis, two gaps or intervals through which forces or substances coming from without should enter. From the time of this change, the Law of Eftologodiksis could no longer completely evolve or involve without foreign help coming through its two intervals. And this according to this property of the Law of Eftologodiksis, by means of these two intervals, it now effects the evolution and involution of substances in the beings composing the Tritacosmoses. That is to say, during the transition of substances from one centre of gravity to another, substances of the fundamental cosmic Triamonia of quite other densties, must, without fail, help in two places. And in those organic machines, such a help proceeds in the following way.]
Maar waar zijn die twee gaps eigenlijk? Laten we verder gaan.
EN OOK misschien dat 'periodically feeding' hier iets mee te maken heeft?
Wat de tweede oorspronkelijke kosmische wet betreft, die van de heilige Triamazikamno, de objectieve kosmische wetenschap formuleert haar in de volgende bewoordingen:Verder wordt er verteld dat er dus bronnen van buiten nodig waren enz. als hij de wetten die de Sun Absolute in stand houden afhankelijk wilden maken.
"Alles wat nieuw ontstaat komt voort uit wat reeds bestaat door de 'harnel-miatznel', dat wil zeggen door een versmelting waarvan het proces zich als volgt voltrekt: wat boven is verenigt zich met wat beneden is teneinde door deze vereniging wat in het midden is voort te brengen en dit wordt dan tegelijkertijd het hogere voor het erop volgende lagere en het lagere voor het eraan voorafgaande hogere.''
Ik heb je al gezegd dat deze heilige Triamazikamno drie onafhankelijke krachten omvat die de volgende namen dragen: [door mij erbij genoteerd:]"And as regards the second fundamental primordial cosmic law, namely the sacred Triamazikamno, cosmic Objective Science formulates it in these terms.
- de eerste, 'Soerb-Otheos'; 'Bevestigende Kracht', of 'Aandrijvende Kracht' of eenvoudigweg 'Kracht Plus' : 'God de Vader'
- de tweede, 'Soerb-Skiros'; 'Ontkennende Kracht' of 'Weerstandbiedende Kracht' of eenvoudigweg 'Kracht Min'; 'God de Zoon'
- de derde, 'Soerb-Athanatos'; 'Verzoenende Kracht' of 'Evenwichtskracht', of ook wel 'Neutraliserende Kracht': 'God de Heilige Geest'
'A new arising from the previously arisen through the "harnel-miatznel," the process of which is actualized thus the higher blends with the lower in order together to actualize the middle, and thus to become either higher for the preceding lower or lower for the succeeding higher.
Dus van Atoëgocraat > Trogautoëgocraat
Toen onze Gemeenschappelijke Eeuwige Eén-Wezenlijke Vader besloten had het beginsel te wijzigen op grond waarvan het bestaan van deze unieke kosmische concentratie, de verblijfplaats van zijn Glorierijk Wezen, in stand werd gehouden, begon Hij de functionering zelf van deze twee oorspronkelijke heilige wetten te veranderen en wel in het bijzonder die van de heilige Heptaparaparshinokh.
De belangrijke wijziging die Hij in de functionering van de heilige Heptaparaparshinokh aanbracht had betrekking op drie van haar stopinders en bestond in een verandering van de 'subjectieve werking' daarvan. Hij verlengde de duur van de ene, verkortte die van de andere en disharmoniseerde die van de derde.
Teneinde aan de stopinder die gelegen is tussen het derde en vierde 'punt van afbuiging' de vereiste eigenschap te verzekeren om voor haar functionering de automatische toestroming van alle omgringende krachten op te nemen, verlengde Hij de duur ervan.
Dat is nu juist die stopinder van de heilige Heptaparaparshinokh welke men 'mechanisch-samentreffende mdnel-in' noemt.
Wat de stopinder betreft die Hij verkortte, deze is gelegen tussen het laatste 'punt van afbuiging'' en het begin van een nieuwe cyclus van het proces van de Heptaparaparshinokh. Door deze verandering, die was bedoeld om het begin van de nieuwe cyclus te vergemakkelijken, verleende Hij aan deze stopinder een functionering die uitsluitend afhankelijk is van de toestroming van uitwendige krachten welke de resultaten van de werking van de kosmische concentratie waarin het algehele proces van deze fundamentele heilige wet zich voltrekt, haar doen toekomen.
En het is deze stopinder van de heilige Heptaparaparshinokh die men ook in onze tijd nog de 'doelbewust tot stand gebrachte mdnel-in'noemt.
Wat de derde stopinder betreft waarvan Hij de 'subjectieve werking' veranderde, die de vijfde is van de reeks en 'harnel-haoet' wordt genoemd, de disharmonisatie daarvan voltrok zich vanzelf als gevolg van de verandering der beide andere stopinders.
Deze disharmonisatie van haar subjectieve functionering, die het gevolg is van haar relatieve asymmetrie in het geheel van proces van de heilige Heptaparaparshinokh, bestaat hierin:
Wanneer het proces van deze heilige wet zich voltrekt onder zodanige omstandigheden dat het onderworpen is aan de werking van talrijke trillingen voortgekomen uit 'velerlei oorzaken' die er vreemd aan zijn, dan geeft het alleen maar uiterlijke resultaten.
Maar als ditzelfde proces zich voltrekt in volkomen rust en in totale afwezigheid van trillingen voortgekomen uit velerlei oorzaken die er vreemd aan zijn, dan blijven alle gevolgen van zijn werking binnen de concentratie waarin het zich voltrekt en deze gevolgen zijn alleen uiterlijk waarneembaar in geval van rechtstreeks en onmiddellijk contact.
Wanneer in de liip van dit proces geen van deze beide diametraal tegengestelde voorwaarden de overhand heeft, verdelen de gevolgen van de werking ervan zich gewoonlijk in uiterlijke en innerlijke.
Nou... het wordt er niet gemakkelijker van, alhoewel het wel steeds interessanter wordt. Ik heb hierbij een schetsje gemaakt, die natuurlijk ook helemaal fout kan zijn, maar dit is wat ik er ONG van begreep [this sketch could be completely wrong, but this is kind of what I could understand while reading the text above]:
"Our Common Father Uni-Being Endlessness, having decided to change the principle of the maintenance of existence of that still unique cosmic concentration and sole place of His Most Glorious Being, first altered the functioning itself.
of these two primordial sacred laws, and He made the greater change in the law of the sacred Heptaparaparshinokh.
"This change in the functioning of the sacred Heptaparaparshinokh consisted in the alteration of what is called the 'subjective action' of three of its 'stopinders.' In one He lengthened the law-conformable duration, in another He shortened it, and in a third, disharmonized it.
"To provide the stopinder between the third and fourth 'points of deflection' with the required property of absorbing for its functioning the automatic inflow of all surrounding forces, He prolonged its duration.
"And this is the stopinder of the sacred Heptaparaparshinokh which is still called the 'mechano-coinciding mdnelin. '
"And the stopinder that He shortened is between the last 'point of deflection' and the beginning of a new cycle of the completing process of this sacred law By this shortening, in order to facilitate the beginning of a new cycle, He predetermined that the functioning of this stopinder would depend solely upon the influx through that stopinder of external forces resulting from the action of that cosmic concentration itself in which the completing process of this primordial sacred law is flowing.
"And this stopinder of the sacred Heptaparaparshinokh is the one that is still called the 'intentionally actualized mdnelin. '
"As regards the third stopinder which was changed in its subjective action and which is fifth in the series and called 'harnel-aoot,' its disharmony came about by itself, simply as a result of the change of the other two stopinders.
"This disharmony of its subjective functioning, resulting from its 'asymmetry' in relation to the whole process of the sacred Heptaparaparshinokh, consists in the following:
"If the completing process of this sacred law flows in conditions in which it is subject to many 'extraneously' caused' vibrations, its functioning produces only external results.
"But if this same process takes place in absolute quiet, in the absence of any extraneously caused vibrations whatever, all the results of the functioning of this stopinder remain within that concentration in which the process is completed, and these results only become perceptible to the outside on direct and immediate contact with it.
"But if during the functioning of this process neither of these two sharply opposite conditions predominates, the results of its action usually divide into the external and the internal.
"Thus from that time on, the actualization of the primordial sacred law of Heptaparaparshinokh began to proceed in the greatest as well as the smallest cosmic concentrations with the subjective action of its stopinders changed in this way.
However I do think that this sketch is quite incorrect because the harnel-aoot did not change and the 1st and 4th stopinder did, which I think is not correct. So I think that perhaps a mathematical formula could make this sketch correct which can make sure that the 5th stopinder only changes due to the two other changes (7th and 3rd).. perhaps
En zo, mijn jongen, begon de heilige wet van Heptaparaparshinokh vanaf het ogenblik waarop Onze Eeuwige Schepper haar aan deze ingrijpende wijziging die betrekking had op de subjectieve werking van de stopinders onderwierp, in te werken op het realisatie proces van alle kleine en kosmische formaties.
Ik zeg het je nog eens, mijn lieve Hassein, probeer goed alles in je op te nemen wat betrekking heeft op deze beide fundamentele kosmische wetten, want de kennis van deze twee heilige wetten en vooral de bijzonderheden van de Heptaparaparshinokh zal het je dan mogelijk maken om alle wetten van de tweede en de derde orde die betrekking hebben op de 'schepping van de wereld' en het 'bestaan van de wereld' volledig en zonder moeite te begrijpen.
Want bij ieder tri-cebebraal wezen, wat ook de vorm van zijn uiterlijke bekleding is, ontwikkelt de diepere kennis van deze heilige wetten de mogelijkheid om in tegenwoordigheid van welke van hem onafhankelijke kosmische factor dan ook -- of deze nu gunstig of ongunstig is -- na te denken over de reden van zijn bestaan en de gegevens te verkrijgen die nodig zijn om te komen tot het inzicht en de erkenning van het 'individuele conflict' dat in het algemeen bij tri-cerebrale wezens ontstaat door de tegenstrijdigheid tussen de concrete gevolgen van het proces van alle kosmische wetten en die waarop hun 'gezonde verstand' hen doet rekenen en die zij zelfs met zekerheid verwachten. Zo kunnen zij door de wezenlijke betekenis van hun eigen presentie op de juiste waarde te schatten, zich bewust worden van hun werkelijke plaats in het geheel van deze kosmische realisaties.
Met andere woorden, door zich een globaal begrip van het functioneren van deze beide fundamentele heilige wetten eigen te maken, kristalliseren zich tenslotte in de presentie van de tri-cerebrale wezens elementen waaruit de voor ieder normaal tri-cerebraal wezen onontbeerlijke goddelijke eigenschap ontstaat die bekend staat onder de naam 'semoeniranoes' , de eigenschap waarvan je gunstelingen bij benadering een voorstelling hebben en die zij 'onpartijdigheid' noemen.
"I repeat, my boy, try very hard to understand everything relating to both these fundamental cosmic laws, since knowledge of these two sacred laws, especially knowledge of the particularities of the sacred Heptaparaparshinokh, will help you later to understand very well and easily all the second-order and third-order laws of 'world-creation' and 'world-existence. '
"Furthermore, an all-around awareness of everything concerning these sacred laws makes it possible for three-brained beings, irrespective of the form of their exterior coating, to become able, in the presence of all surrounding cosmic factors not depending on them, whether favorable or unfavorable, to ponder on the sense of their own existence, and so to acquire data for the elucidation and reconciliation in themselves of that 'individual collision,' as it is called, which often arises in three-brained beings from the contradiction between the concrete results flowing from the processes of all the cosmic laws and the results presupposed and even definitely expected by their 'sane logic ' And so, correctly evaluating the essential significance of their own presence, they become capable of being aware of the place truly corresponding to them in these common-cosmic actualizations.
"In short, the transubstantiation in themselves of an all-around understanding of the functioning of these two fundamental sacred laws leads to the crystallization in the common presence of three-brained beings of data for engendering that divine property, indispensable to every normal three-brained being, existing under the name of 'semooniranoos.' Your favorites also have an approximate representation of this, and they call it 'impartiality. '
Nu komt een stuk die we voorheen al hebben gelezen, maar misschien dat het nu wat meer duidelijker wordt.
En zo, mijn lieve jongen, toen Onze Gemeenschappelijke Vader en Almachtige Schepper de taak ondernam om het functioneren van de twee oorspronkelijke heilige wetten te wijzigen, richtte Hij hun werking die voortkwam uit het inwenige van de Absolute Zon op de universele ruimte en schiep aldus de 'Uitstraling van de Zeer Heilige Asolute Zon', die tegenwoordig 'Theomertmalogos' of 'God het Woord' wordt genoemd.
Vooruitlopend op bepaalde verklaringen die ik je later zal geven moet ik hier opmerken dat de goddelijke 'Wilskracht' va Onze Eeuwigheid alleen maar bij het allereerste begin aan het scheppingsproces van de tegenwoordige wereld deelnam.
De schepping vond daarna automatisch, uit zichzelf, voortgang zonder enige deelname van Zijn goddelijke 'Wilskracht', uitsluitend door de werking van de twee op deze wijze veranderde fundamentele kosmische wetten.
Dit scheppings-proces voltrok zich in deze volgorde:
Dank zij de nieuwe bijzonderheid van de vijfde stopinder van de heilige Heptaparaparshinokh oefenden de van de Absolute Zon uitgaande stralingen in bepaalde punten van de ruimte van het Heelal hun werking uit op de oorspronkelijke kosmische substantie 'ethernokrilno' en verdichtten zodoende, dank zij het geheel van de oude en nieuwe bijzonderheden van de oorspronkelijke heilige wetten, zekere duidelijk bepaalde concentraties.
Vervolgens verkregen deze concentraties, dank zij deze zelfde factoren, haar eigen wetten van Heptaparaparshinokh en Triamazikamno die onderling verbonden waren doordat zij wederzijds op elkaar inwerkten; en vanaf die tijd kristalliseerde zich in deze concentraties geleidelijk aan alles uit wat nodig was voor het onststaan van die grote kosmische concentraties welke tegenwoordig nog bestaan en waaraan wij de naam geven van 'Zonnen van de Tweede Orde'.
Toen deze nieuwe zonnen volledig gerealiseerd waren en de functionering van hun twee fundamentele wetten definitief in hen veranderd was, begonnen zij naar het voorbeeld van de zeer Heilige Absolute Zon hun eigen resultaten te transformeren en uit te stralen en deze verenigden zich in de ruimte van het heelal met de uitstralingen van de Zeer Heilige Absolute Zon en werden op hun beurt realiserings-factoren van het fundamentele kosmische proces van de heilige wet van 'Triamazikamno'.
Anders gezegd:
De Zeer Heilige Theomertmalogos manifesteerde zich in de hoedanigheid van de derde heilige kracht van de heilige Triamazikamno, de gevolgen van de werkzaamheid van elk van de nieuwe 'Zonnen van de Tweede Orde' dienden als eerste heilige kracht, en de op elk van deze nieuwe 'Zonnen van de Tweede Orde' door al de andere gezamenlijk uitgeoefende resultaten dienden als tweede heilige kracht van deze heilige wet.
(dit doet me denken aan:
""The automatic creation of the suns proceeded further in the following way: the emanations of the newly-created suns became to each other as positive and negative, and the emanations of the Sun-Absolute itself became neutralising for these emanations of the newly created suns."
)
Toen het kosmische proces van de heilige Triamazikamno eenmaal op deze wijze in de ruimte van het Heelal gevestigd was, begonnen zich, uitgaande van de oorspronkelijke ethernokrilno, kristallisaties van verschillende 'dichtheid' te vormen en deze groepeerden zich rondom elk der Zonnen van de Tweede Orde om nieuwe concentraties te vormen -- en zo verschenen nieuwe Zonnen die ditmaal 'Zonne van de Derde Orden' werden genoemd.
Deze kosmische concentraties van de Derde Orde noemen wij tegenwoordig 'planeten'.
"And so, my dear boy, when in the beginning our Common Father Creator Almighty changed the functioning of both these primordial sacred laws, He directed the action of their forces from within the Most Most Holy Sun Absolute into the space of the Universe, whereupon there came into being the 'Emanation of the Sun Absolute,' which is now called 'Theomertmalogos' or 'Word-God.'
"For the sake of clarity in certain of my further explanations it must be remarked here that, in the process of creation of the now existing world, the 'Force of the Divine Will' of our Endlessness participated only at the very beginning.
"The subsequent creation went on automatically, of its own accord, entirely without the participation of the 'Force of His Own Divine Will,' thanks only to these two changed fundamental cosmic laws.
"And the process of creation then took place in the following sequence:
"Thanks to the new property of the fifth stopinder of the sacred Heptaparaparshinokh, the emanations issuing from the Sun Absolute began to act at certain definite points of the space of the Universe upon the prime-source cosmic substance 'ethernokrilno,' and thus, by means of the totality of the old and new properties of the sacred primordial laws, certain definite concentrations began to take form.
"Further, thanks to those factors these definite concentrations acquired their own laws of Heptaparaparshinokh and Triamazikamno, which began to exert their action upon each other, and there were gradually crystallized in these concentrations everything necessary for the appearance of those large concentrations which still exist and are now called 'second-order suns.'
"When these newly arisen suns had been completely actualized and both fundamental laws with their own functioning had been finally established in them, then, in the same way as in the Most Most Holy Sun Absolute, their own results began to be transformed and radiated, and these, uniting with the emanations of the Most Most Holy Sun Absolute in the space of the Universe, became factors for the actualization of the common-cosmic fundamental process of the sacred law of Triamazikamno .
"That is to say:
"The Most Most Holy Theomertmalogos began to manifest itself in the quality of the third holy force of the sacred Triamazikamno, the results of the action of any one of the newly arisen 'second-order suns' began to serve as the first holy force And the results of all the newly arisen 'second-order suns' as a whole, acting upon the given newly arisen 'second-order sun,' began to serve as the second holy force of this sacred law.
(Which reminds me of:
""The automatic creation of the suns proceeded further in the following way: the emanations of the newly-created suns became to each other as positive and negative, and the emanations of the Sun-Absolute itself became neutralising for these emanations of the newly created suns."
)
"As soon as the process of the common-cosmic sacred Triamazikamno was thus established in the space of the Universe, crystallizations of different 'densities' were gradually formed out of that same prime-source ethernokrilno, and began to group themselves around each of the second-order suns, giving rise to new concentrations—and in this way more new suns appeared, but this time 'third-order suns.'
"These third-order cosmic concentrations are those which at the present time are called 'planets. '
